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  1. #1
    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
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    1786 Vermont colonial copper

    This is actually my first post on this forum but I've been checking it out for a few months now. I'm kinda new to this game. I used to use a metal detector back in the 80's when I was a teenager, then, mysteriously, I forgot about it. Last year my friend got a new detector and I remembered how much fun it used to be and wondered to myself why I ever stopped. I ended up getting one myself and instantly became addicted to the hobby again. Now I'll get to the point. Last week I ran into a friend that I hadn't seen in about ten years and we were talking trying to catch up when he mentioned that he had just purchased a new house (New to him that is) It was a very old farmhouse in a rural New York town Near where we grew up. I immediately steered the conversation to metal detecting and secured permission to hunt the property. Now I'll skip to the good part. After searching for a while and not finding anything great I hit a good signal a pretty good distance away from the house in an area that apparently had been a cornfield at some point but was now mowed and part of the lawn. Imagine seeing this. didn't know what it was at first...thought it may have been a button with the shank broken off where the eye is on the back of the coin. Oh yeah, one more thing..I'm not very computer literate and I just got my digital camera recently so I hope these pictures come out OK....
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  2. #2
    us
    Mar 2006
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    holy holy holy smokes !!!!!!!!!!! awesome find there.....
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    keenest hobby ever

  3. #3
    us
    Oct 2005
    Cleveland, Ohio
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Boy did that coin hold up GREAT! Fantastic, gotta go back now and see what else you can find. Welcome to the site btw! HH!

  4. #4

    May 2007
    Upstate New York - USA
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Very sweet coin, I just started detecting this year and the oldest find has been 1839. What an outstanding coin. Any idea of the value ? (never sell it - way too cool)
    "fix the holes and make nice with everyone you meet"

  5. #5

    Apr 2007
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Fantastic coin
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  6. #6
    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
    Upstate NY
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFarces
    Very sweet coin, I just started detecting this year and the oldest find has been 1839. What an outstanding coin. Any idea of the value ? (never sell it - way too cool)
    Thanks man. I still cant believe it when I think about it. I checked it in the redbook under the colonial coins section. G- 250.00 VG- 500 F- 900 VF- 2400 EF- 4200....we'll stop right there because of the two scratches on the front of the coin. Condition will drop alot due to those. I did not put them there. You can see the dark green patina fills in the scratches as well. Maybe that coin got hit once or twice by a plow when that lawn used to be a cornfield. Thanks for the reply and happy hunting. I think the coin is probably worth somewhere between 600 and 1000 bucks. I guess that pays off the detector...Lol....
    Old Dude and rickb2202 like this.
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    1787 Vermont Copper
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    George Washington Inaugural Button (GW 1 type)
    1872 Indian Head Cent (VF/EF condition)
    1866 Indian Head Cent (EF condition)
    1864 "L" Indian Head Cent
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    1840 Gen. Harrison Campaign Token
    1832 Nova Scotia Halfpenny Token
    Two cent pieces---7
    1721 King George I
    1732 King George II
    Barber Half dollars---3
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  7. #7
    us
    Feb 2007
    The Constituition State
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Welcome to Tnet Evolution...thats a great coin you got there..what a find...Congrats...
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  8. #8
    us
    wolf pack!!!

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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    The redbook also says "most Vermont coppers are struck on poor or defective Planchets. Well struck coins on smooth full planchets command higher prices" It is also called a "landscape copper". That is one sweet find for someone just starting out. Welcome to the forum.
    Leave no stone unturned.

  9. #9
    us
    Pulltabs = Gold. Returned to owner 1946

    Apr 2005
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Very nice. Good job!!!

  10. #10
    us
    Apr 2007
    West Michigan
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Very very nice coin! Welcome to TNet. Its nice to see you guys in NY finding some good stuff, I was just there and got skunked on old stuff (wasn't really there long enough to do any good).

  11. #11

    Apr 2007
    Michigan
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Pages 85 and 86 of the 2008 Red Book, "Vermontensium 1786".
    G - 250
    VG - 500
    F - 900
    VF - 2400
    EF - 4200
    AU - 9000

    I haven't yet located their criteria for grading Colonial and Post-Colonial issues, but as outstanding (!) as your coin looks (and the fact that they say well-struck examples fetch more money), I'd hazard an uneducated guess that your coin is somewhere between F and AU. I sure don't know where, though.

    I'm sure some people here can direct you to sources that will narrow down the accurate valuation of it.

    AND NOW I HATE YOU 13 ORIGINAL COLONIES "HOME TOADS" ALL THE MORE...

    Incredible find, congratulations!

  12. #12
    us
    Jun 2005
    Chippewa Falls
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Welcome to the site. All I can say is awsome, just awsome find

  13. #13
    Facilitator of Happiness

    Apr 2007
    East Greenbush NY
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    I found one just like that years ago..I sold it for around 3 grand when my car broke down. I do not remember fully but I do not think my was much better than yours...If not the same condition. GREAT FIND.

    outraged-

  14. #14
    us
    Apr 2007
    Austin, TX
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    That coin is in fantastic condition, a find of a life time. I'll bet you're really hooked again now. WAY TO GO!!!!
    It's better to be thought a fool, then open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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  15. #15
    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
    Upstate NY
    Whites DFX (with 4x6 shooter DD coil and 12" spider coil), Minelab Rocco 2700. (E-Trac)
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    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Thanks alot for the support and the replies guys. Even if it is raining here I still feel like I vicariously got out that day just by checking in and seeing what everyone else turned up that day. I really enjoy the site and will be making some more posts in the near future to catch everyone up with what I have found in the year and a half I've been detecting. Only 4 more coppers (coppas) and I'll catch up with Kirk for the year. (not very likely)
    Best Finds:

    1786 Vermont Landscape Copper (Ryder 7 variety)
    1787 Vermont Copper
    1787 New Jersey Copper (Maris 63 variety)
    1797 and 1804 DBLCs
    George Washington Inaugural Button (GW 1 type)
    1872 Indian Head Cent (VF/EF condition)
    1866 Indian Head Cent (EF condition)
    1864 "L" Indian Head Cent
    Hard Times Tokens---2
    1840 Gen. Harrison Campaign Token
    1832 Nova Scotia Halfpenny Token
    Two cent pieces---7
    1721 King George I
    1732 King George II
    Barber Half dollars---3
    War Of 1812 Shoulder Belt Plate

 

 
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