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    Went to Vermont, Connecticut, and New Jersey in an hour and a half.

    3 state coppers, a large cent, Spanish 1 real, a KG III, and a Cft Irish half penny. Not bad for an hour and a half. I found the Conn,( my 16th), and the 1 real. DigginitRTB found the other 5. The Vermont is a COUNTERFEIT, close to Ryder 3 but letters and spacing don't match die. Coin is DEFINITELY a alloy based contemporary Cft. First I've seen. Waiting on call back from Tony Carlotto. Only posted clean pics of the Vt. The others, although identifiable, coins are shot. VT has file marks on edge.Hoping IP or DON can pipe in as this is a first for us. Never seen a contemporary Cft. VT.
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    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip* SOLD $1,583*,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800--** British 31st ROF Cartridge Box Plate** SOLD!! (PRIVATE AMOUNT)...To be continued

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    Here are the uncleaned coins and buttons.
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    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip* SOLD $1,583*,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800--** British 31st ROF Cartridge Box Plate** SOLD!! (PRIVATE AMOUNT)...To be continued

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    That is a seriously obscene haul for 90 minutes. Amazing variety and qty! What kind of location are we talking about?
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    Yep I agree !! Congrats !!
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    Great! And obscene! Great going.
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    wow, another major first, totally mind blowing too! congrats
    LUKE 15 : 8 "OR WHAT WOMAN, IF SHE HAS TEN SILVER COINS AND LOSES ONE COIN,DOES NOT LIGHT A LAMP AND SWEEP THE HOUSE AND SEARCH CAREFULLY UNTIL SHE FINDS IT?" 15 : 9 "AND WHEN SHE HAS FOUND IT, SHE CALLS TOGETHER HER FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, SAYING, "REJOICE WITH ME, FOR I HAVE FOUND THE COIN WHICH I HAD LOST!"

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    good haul for ninety minutes!

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    Everything you describe doesn't really go together. If it's a lower grade metal and you think counterfeit it would most likely be cast, and if cast it would be an exact match for Ryder 3. If the spacing does not match Ryder 3 the only possibility is it's another variety, or a new variety, but I don't think it's either. I posted an image below and look at the little mark that's just left to the A at the bottom, a mark left from the die and your coin appears to have the matching mark, which is basically the same idea as matching die cracks. So that really only leaves two choices... your coin is genuine, or a cast counterfeit of Ryder 3. Sometimes a rough copper can look very much like a cast ctft. so even though it's fairly convincing I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility it's genuine. Either way it's a good find, and a 'rare' coin if genuine, or a cool find if counterfeit.
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    Do not forget me 24601

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    Counterfeit or real, its still beautiful.

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    Congrats on all the coppers and the one silver, with all running around to the different states I hope you had time for a quick bite to eat. Really Hogge that's one sick short hunt.

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    Nice coin with history either way ! Congrats on your finds.
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    That's a great hunt right there congrats on all keepers
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    Wow, 6 1700s coins in an hour and a half. Must've been a hell of a ride. Big congrats!
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    Short but sweet! Nice hunt that was!

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    What an outstanding assortment of early coins for such a short hunt! I'm sure you guys will be revisiting that site very soon. Good luck!
    MAJOR BOOK ANNOUNCEMENT:

    I am anticipating that my new book entitled "DISCOVERING VIRGINIA'S COLONIAL ARTIFACTS - A Comprehensive Guide to Recovery, Identification and Preservation" will be available sometime during the early Fall 2017. This hardcover volume, nearly 400 pages in length, will double as both a "how-to" manual as well as a colonial artifact "encyclopedia" to help ID and date your finds. This publication will be a valuable resource not just for the colonial enthusiast, but for all metal detecting hobbyists as it covers topics such as research, permission, how to read and search sites, trash pits, artifact cleaning, preservation, documentation and display, ethics, and much more. It will also contain nearly 1000 color photos of 16th, 17th and 18th century artifacts I have personally recovered over the last 20+ years along with many quality post-colonial finds that randomly turn up at early sites. Updates will be provided as we get closer to the release date.

    ** THE BOOK IS NOW COMPLETE AND IS NOW READY FOR PRINTING. HOPE TO HAVE IT IN MY HANDS BY LATE OCTOBER IF ALL GOES WELL. (Last updated 9-20-17)

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    TOTAL COLONIAL SILVER COINS DUG: 194
    - Hammered silver coins (pre-1645 not including cobs): 22
    - Hammered silver coins from the 1500s: 8 (all sixpences)
    - Spanish cobs: 22
    - Cut silver pieces: 88
    - Other whole colonial silver coins: 59
    - Colonial silver counterfeits: 3
    OLDEST COLONIAL SILVER COIN DUG: 1563 Elizabeth I sixpence
    MOST RARE AND VALUABLE COLONIAL SILVER COIN DUG: 1659 Lord Baltimore sixpence

    NOTABLE COLONIAL COPPER COINS/JETTONS/TOKENS DUG:
    - Early 1600s jettons (3 dug)
    - 1600s Half penny trade token
    - 1650-75 Edward Jarvis "The George" tavern penny token (London)
    - 1670 Bristol merchant's farthing token
    - 1675 Charles II farthing
    - 1677-79 Charles II bawbee sixpence
    - 1694 W&M halfpenny (2 dug)
    - 1795 Liberty cap cent (graded EF)
    - 1797, 1798 & 1803 Draped bust LCs
    - 1811 Half cent (rare date - graded EF)
    - 1700s KG coppers (20-25 dug)
    - 1761/62 German 21 heller (cut)
    - 1773 Va halfpennies (42-45 dug)
    - 1786 German 1 pfennig
    - 1700s French copper
    - Numerous 1700s undated or slicks

    ** All of these coins were dug at numerous colonial sites in southeast Virginia after securing property owner permission.

 

 
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