Garage Sale find! Would love some research help!

[Stuperduke]

Picked this set up for cheap at a garage sale. I can make out all the text except the last name of Jennie as well as the word that follows Ball....anyone care to help me solve the riddle of who the folks are if possible?

 

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[Old Pueblo]

Looks like Winder or something after "Jennie". And it says "presented" after "Balls". Nice find

 

[Old Pueblo]

Looking at it again, I think it says "Duke Bates", not balls.

 

[Stuperduke]

Yeah, pretty rough read. There's a word between Ball and Thomas....cant figure that one or the first three characters of the last name of Jennie. Yeah, I'm pretty happy with having the complete set.

 

[Stuperduke]

Yeah, for sure Duke Bates, but I'm assuming not "a duke but rather Duke being his name.

 

[against the wind]

You have an eternity to get help deciphering what it says. Great score

 

[Stuperduke]

True, very True! Thank you!

 

[Old Pueblo]

It says "Bud" I think, after Thomas, and Im 99% sure the first letter in the word after Jennie is a capitalized "W". After that the "inder" looks pretty clear, but it looks like theres another letter or two in between what I think is the "W" and the "inder".

 

[sutphin]

SHE HAS THE LOOKS OF A FEMALE SPY. NICE FIND ...

 

[Kurios1]

SHE HAS THE LOOKS OF A FEMALE SPY. NICE FIND ...

She was assassinated directly after this picture was taken. Makes this find very historic and valuable!

 

[Kurios1]

Very cool old history you have here. Cherish it even if they aren't your relatives. It's civil war old and deserves to be preserved for those to come. Great score!

 

[scruggs]

Sweet ole find, congratulations!

 

[Trezurehunter]

Those are some very nice pieces.

 

[sprailroad]

Kind of looks like they could be brother and sister, facial features look very much the same. Pretty neat items.

 

[Blak bart]

Once my grandma told me to check the frames to see if they are real gold on old pics like those. Somtimes the hollow type frames are real gold !!

 

[jodan3399]

Here's what I see...YMMV

First one.
From ??...??st one Jennie... ?under? to her loving friend Duke Bates.
Presented to me Wednesday evening May 19th 1869
Duke

Second one.
Taken Friday afternoon Ball ?? Thomas June 25th 1869
From Duke to Jennie
presented Sunday evening June 27th? 1869
21-2-22

 

[RobMc]

Pic 4, best I can read;

Taken Friday afternoon, ball (?) ? Thomas, June 25th, 1869.

From duke
To Jennie

Presented Sunday (?) evening (?)
June 27th, 1869.

21-2-22



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[Sleepy]

I'm seeing "to her loving friend Duke Bates".

 

[Ammoman]

She looks like Lizzy Bordon in a prison outfit. Very cool!

 

[Bramblefind]

This is from the 1870 census. Duke Bates is living in the home the Wunder family (his in-laws?) in Cincinnati, Ohio. His wife is "Vagima" which is probably more likely "Virginia" and "Jennie" would be a proper nickname for that.

Name:  Duke Bates
Age in 1870: 22
Birth Year: abt 1848
Birthplace: Kentucky
Dwelling Number: 224
Home in 1870: Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio
Race: White
Gender: Male
Occupation: Book Keeper
Male Citizen Over 21: Y
Household Members:
Name Age
Daruel Wunder 59
Mary Wunder 58
George Wunder 27
Edward Wunder 22
Charles Wunder 19
Ella Wunder 15
Duke Bates 22
Vagima Bates 18

Here's an entry from a family tree on Acenstry-

Marmaduke Bates
1848–1926


BIRTH 5 APR 1848 • Newport, Kentucky
DEATH 4 FEB 1926 • Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Family
Parents
Thomas Bates
1820–
Margaret Dodsworth
1819–1900
Spouse & Children
Virginia Junie Wunder
1853–1921
Edna Bates 1873–1942
Ella Viola Bates 1875–1884
Frank Marmaduke Bates 1879–1884
Everett Gregg Bates 1881–1884
Alice Marie Bates 1887–1941