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    Quote Originally Posted by Davers View Post
    A beautiful piece of history.
    Thanks for showing us.
    Thanks for the comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pepperj View Post
    Congrats on the bonus end of the season find Aureus, what a beauty find it is at that. Something that is really high on the want list a find like this and a piece of Trade Silver. I know from reading the local history and talking with the local historians the trade routes went right past my doorstep so maybe one day luck will shine in the dirt as well.
    I'm sure it will. Good luck on your hunts.
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    Da Deus Fortunae.

  3. #18
    Great find and a greater ID. Congrats.
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    got Mass Silver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Tree Chaser View Post
    Great find and a greater ID. Congrats.
    Thank you.
    Da Deus Fortunae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aureus View Post
    Thanks man.
    I should have said older than any metal finds we get, but I think you knew that. We do get a lot of Neolithic flints.

    However, the more I ponder this, I do believe its worth a banner vote.
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    Anton,

    Great find....to the best of my knowledge the copper culture artifacts were cold forged, ie; hammered with stone tools and folded again and again to add strength.

    As you mentioned odds are this item made its way to Quebec as a trade item from another tribe as the majority of the raw copper used came from Ile Royale in the Great Lakes.

    Great find and well worthy of a banner nomination!

    Regards + HH

    Bill
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    I should have said older than any metal finds we get, but I think you knew that. We do get a lot of Neolithic flints.

    However, the more I ponder this, I do believe its worth a banner vote.
    I appreciate your support Cru. Yes, of course, there are stone made tools in Europe that are extremely old. I found something on my hunt in France last year but I'm not sure if it's man made but sure looks like it. I recovered it on a field I found my Celtic Carnutes tribe coin. I don't know if you have seen similar items. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill from lachine View Post
    Anton,

    Great find....to the best of my knowledge the copper culture artifacts were cold forged, ie; hammered with stone tools and folded again and again to add strength.

    As you mentioned odds are this item made its way to Quebec as a trade item from another tribe as the majority of the raw copper used came from Ile Royale in the Great Lakes.

    Great find and well worthy of a banner nomination!

    Regards + HH

    Bill
    Thank you Bill. Great information on the techniques used! I had no idea how they were shaped.
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    Anton,
    This link has a bit of sketchy material on the process....plenty of other info out there also.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Copper_Complex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aureus View Post
    I appreciate your support Cru. Yes, of course, there are stone made tools in Europe that are extremely old. I found something on my hunt in France last year but I'm not sure if it's man made but sure looks like it. I recovered it on a field I found my Celtic Carnutes tribe coin. I don't know if you have seen similar items. Thanks again.

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    It is man made, I'm not sure its a tool unless its part of a larger hand axe. Probably a waster; left over from making other tools.
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    Definitely a bannerworthy find. Beautiful piece. I can appreciate it's historic value. Thanks for sharing. My vote is in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill from lachine View Post
    Anton,
    This link has a bit of sketchy material on the process....plenty of other info out there also.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Copper_Complex
    Thanks again.
    Da Deus Fortunae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diggummup View Post
    Definitely a bannerworthy find. Beautiful piece. I can appreciate it's historic value. Thanks for sharing. My vote is in.
    Thank you.
    Da Deus Fortunae.

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    Why isn't this on the BANNER?
    Has to be the most interesting find Iv'e seen found on this side of the Pond.
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    nice save amazingly good shape could be in a museum

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using TreasureNet.com mobile app
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