πŸ₯‡ BANNER Prehistoric Copper Culture spear/harpoon head found in Quebec.

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With the fields frozen solid decided to try my luck in the woods that produced some Native American artefacts in the past. The area is extremely old so anything is possible. Wasn't expecting this though. Unearthed it very deep from under the fallen tree roots so I believe it might actually have been deeper at one point but the tree roots pulled it closer to the surface. Right out of the ground it looked like a small spear head but unlike any kettle points I have found in the past it was very thick, made of what looked like pure copper (not an alloy) and it was very crudely made. I started doubting the spear head idea and thought that it's some strange ramrod piece but its size and the extreme depth it was found at just wouldn't fit the theory. Only after arriving home and sending pics to some more knowledgeable friends and posting on specialized forums I really understood what it was. It seems I have found an Archaic Period Copper Culture spear/harpoon head dating to approx. 4000-1000 B.C. I still can't grasp those numbers as even hunting in Europe I would have had a very little chance of finding a 3000-6000 years old copper man made relic. What's even more interesting is they are extremely rare in Quebec and might have traveled the long distance from the Great Lakes thru the exchanges between the Native tribes. Super excited about this one as it's by far my oldest metal object find.

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Ref. Copper culture homestead.

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Anton,

Great find....to the best of my knowledge the copper culture artifacts were cold forged, ie; hammered with stone tools and folded again and again to add strength.

As you mentioned odds are this item made its way to Quebec as a trade item from another tribe as the majority of the raw copper used came from Ile Royale in the Great Lakes.

Great find and well worthy of a banner nomination!

Regards + HH

Bill
 

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I should have said older than any metal finds we get, but I think you knew that. We do get a lot of Neolithic flints.

However, the more I ponder this, I do believe its worth a banner vote.

I appreciate your support Cru. Yes, of course, there are stone made tools in Europe that are extremely old. I found something on my hunt in France last year but I'm not sure if it's man made but sure looks like it. I recovered it on a field I found my Celtic Carnutes tribe coin. I don't know if you have seen similar items. Thanks again.

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Anton,

Great find....to the best of my knowledge the copper culture artifacts were cold forged, ie; hammered with stone tools and folded again and again to add strength.

As you mentioned odds are this item made its way to Quebec as a trade item from another tribe as the majority of the raw copper used came from Ile Royale in the Great Lakes.

Great find and well worthy of a banner nomination!

Regards + HH

Bill

Thank you Bill. Great information on the techniques used! I had no idea how they were shaped.
 

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I appreciate your support Cru. Yes, of course, there are stone made tools in Europe that are extremely old. I found something on my hunt in France last year but I'm not sure if it's man made but sure looks like it. I recovered it on a field I found my Celtic Carnutes tribe coin. I don't know if you have seen similar items. Thanks again.

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It is man made, I'm not sure its a tool unless its part of a larger hand axe. Probably a waster; left over from making other tools.
 

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Definitely a bannerworthy find. Beautiful piece. I can appreciate it's historic value. Thanks for sharing. My vote is in.
 

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Why isn't this on the BANNER?
Has to be the most interesting find Iv'e seen found on this side of the Pond.
 

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I believe I might have found an exact match.
Ref. Copper culture homestead.

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Breath taking banner find of a life time.

That item alone is worth writing a paper about.

Great job.
 

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Oddjob,

Glad to see youre still kicking around and hope retirement is treating you well.

Regards + HH

Bill





Breath taking banner find of a life time.

That item alone is worth writing a paper about.

Great job.
 

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Why isn't this on the BANNER?
Has to be the most interesting find Iv'e seen found on this side of the Pond.

Thanks, I'm super excited about this find. Will be hard to beat age wise, but i'll try :laughing7:
I'm not sure how the banners work so I prefer not to expect any.
 

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Hi Great find , If you didnot keep soil off your relic , you need to go back to where found it and collect a soil sample from undisturbed ground from the inside of your dug hole . Luminescence testing of the soil sample date the exact time when this relic was last exposed to sun light . This best advice anyone can give you Tinpan
 

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