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    My oldest coin, Nova ?, 1783, just dug!

    Had 2 hours this morning, decided to hit the site where I have found LC's, 3 cent nickels and a slick copper. Faint wheat penny signal.Click image for larger version. 

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    Thought, "cool a token", size of a LC but a little thinner, but could tell it has some design under the crud

    Rubbed some dirt off on my glove and saw US, googled Old Large Cents, found no matches. Sent pic to Steve of PA, he said it looks like a Nova Constellatio, no way! A little more rubbing and 1783, ok stopped rubbing.
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    Can anyone confirm if this is a Nova and type? I think I need to tooth pick some more crud off, seems like it has a lot of detail under the dirt.

    Dried, then flaked with wooden skewer pics:
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    (Thanks for looking!)

    Good luck out there!
    Last edited by pa-dirt_nc-sand; Nov 24, 2017 at 09:04 PM.

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    It's a Nova Constellatio!

    That's the real deal brother! There was one on the banner earlier this year!(Scrappy found it).

    Do nothing else to the coin, it is worthy of a professional cleaning.

    You hit the jackpot my man. That's your best find ever!

    Big congrats sir.
    Last edited by Carolina Tom; Nov 24, 2017 at 11:31 AM.

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    Holy chit, isn't that about the rarest coin ever? I hope it is real!! Great find
    Last edited by JackalopeZL1; Nov 24, 2017 at 11:37 AM.
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    And the run on amazing coin finds on TNet continues! Major congrats on the awesome find.
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    Unreal! Nice score!
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    For the various Nova Constellatio copper types you can go to: NovaNumismatics.com. This might help you. Click on Essays which is found under the Numismatic sections. Your coin is the 4th on the right.
    Last edited by scruggs; Nov 24, 2017 at 12:08 PM.

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    That’s a killer coin. I hope it cleans up well. It actually looks like the same Variety as the one I found a year ago. If it’s ok by you I can post a couple pics. In the meantime here’s an identification guide Click image for larger version. 

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    The condition looks a-ok as well. Of the 15-20 posted on here over the years, many are toast. You’re holding quite a piece of history - look it up, it’s an amazing read. Congrats again


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    Wow dude---Jackpot !
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    Congrats on the rare old copper, banner vote from me. I wouldn't do anything else to it,looks like a lot of the details are in the patina
    Last edited by trapperart; Nov 24, 2017 at 02:04 PM.
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    That is an outstanding coin find!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolina Tom View Post
    It's a Nova Constellatio!

    That's the real deal brother! There was one on the banner earlier this year!(Scrappy found it).

    Do nothing else to the coin, it is worthy of a professional cleaning.

    You hit the jackpot my man. That's your best find ever!

    Big congrats sir.
    Thanks Tom! Just coming back from from the Christmas Tree farm with the family, checking out the responses. Just starting to sink in. Thx!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackalopeZL1 View Post
    Holy chit, isn't that about the rarest coin ever? I hope it is real!! Great find
    Thanks! I hope it's real also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scruggs View Post
    For the various Nova Constellatio copper types you can go to: NovaNumismatics.com. This might help you. Click on Essays which is found under the Numismatic sections. Your coin is the 4th on the right.
    I think you are correct, I'm looking forward to digging into the history of this coin, big part of the fun for me. Thx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappy View Post
    That’s a killer coin. I hope it cleans up well. It actually looks like the same Variety as the one I found a year ago. If it’s ok by you I can post a couple pics. In the meantime here’s an identification guide Click image for larger version. 

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    The condition looks a-ok as well. Of the 15-20 posted on here over the years, many are toast. You’re holding quite a piece of history - look it up, it’s an amazing read. Congrats again
    Thanks Scrappy. Thanks for the chart, looks like I have the variety C. Pls post pics of yours and let me know your strategy on cleaning it up or service. Thx!
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    That's an absolutely mind-blowing find! Congratulations on a once in a lifetime kind of coin.
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