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  1. #1
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    Question ??? Colonial Button ???

    COLONIAL BUTTONS

    BUTTON #1

    Button #1. Small. Found with the XP DEUS on the other side of the James River, 25 November 2017.

    Shank still intact on other side (see bottom pic). Clad dime for size.

    Any opinions are WELCOME. let me know what you think.



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    BACK of button (pic below) - No Letters visible. Is that a flattened shank?


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    BUTTON #2


    Button #2. Large. Found with the XP DEUS on the other side of the James River, 25 November 2017

    Shank still intact on other side (see bottom). Clad dime for size.

    Any opinions are WELCOME. let me know what you think.



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    FRONT of button (pic below) - Ornate pattern visible.


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    BACK of button (pic below) - Letters "UP" and "NC" visible, appear to be raised lettering.

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    Last edited by Rogue Relic Hunter; Nov 25, 2017 at 03:08 PM.
    trapperart and relic nut like this.
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  2. #2
    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

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    They both appear to be early 1800s.... possibly late 1700s. The small one is a cuff button. Any back mark on it under the crud? If it has a back mark its definitely early 1800s.
    Best Finds:

    1786 Vermont Landscape Copper (Ryder 7 variety)
    1787 Vermont Copper
    1787 New Jersey Copper (Maris 63 variety)
    1797 and 1804 DBLCs
    George Washington Inaugural Button (GW 1 type)
    1872 Indian Head Cent (VF/EF condition)
    1866 Indian Head Cent (EF condition)
    1864 "L" Indian Head Cent
    Hard Times Tokens---2
    1840 Gen. Harrison Campaign Token
    1832 Nova Scotia Halfpenny Token
    Two cent pieces---7
    1721 King George I
    1732 King George II
    Barber Half dollars---3
    War Of 1812 Shoulder Belt Plate

  3. #3
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    Scott, founder of East Coast Relic Hunters

    Oct 2016
    Virginia Colony
    DETECTORS: XP Deus WS-4, Garrett AT Pro and Pro-Pointer, Fisher CZ-5 TOOLS: Piranha shovel & R85 Military digger, both by Predator Tools ATTIRE: Red Head brand Knee-High Waterproof Snake Boots
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evolution View Post
    They both appear to be early 1800s.... possibly late 1700s. The small one is a cuff button. Any back mark on it under the crud? If it has a back mark its definitely early 1800s.
    Thanks. The LARGE button has a UP and a NC visible, raised lettering. The front has some decorative markings. No lettering visible. Working on the small button next.

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    Scott
    Rogue Relic Hunter
    Virginia Colony

    East Coast Relic Hunters - "We don't just read history, we save it!"



  4. #4
    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
    Upstate NY
    Whites DFX (with 4x6 shooter DD coil and 12" spider coil), Minelab Rocco 2700. (E-Trac)
    5,032
    1977 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (1)
    That one actually looks like the back of a two piece button. That would make it more recent. Like 1840 or later. Th UP was likely part of a word. Maybe superior?... Not sure about the NC but my guess would also be part of a larger word.
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    Best Finds:

    1786 Vermont Landscape Copper (Ryder 7 variety)
    1787 Vermont Copper
    1787 New Jersey Copper (Maris 63 variety)
    1797 and 1804 DBLCs
    George Washington Inaugural Button (GW 1 type)
    1872 Indian Head Cent (VF/EF condition)
    1866 Indian Head Cent (EF condition)
    1864 "L" Indian Head Cent
    Hard Times Tokens---2
    1840 Gen. Harrison Campaign Token
    1832 Nova Scotia Halfpenny Token
    Two cent pieces---7
    1721 King George I
    1732 King George II
    Barber Half dollars---3
    War Of 1812 Shoulder Belt Plate

  5. #5
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    Scott, founder of East Coast Relic Hunters

    Oct 2016
    Virginia Colony
    DETECTORS: XP Deus WS-4, Garrett AT Pro and Pro-Pointer, Fisher CZ-5 TOOLS: Piranha shovel & R85 Military digger, both by Predator Tools ATTIRE: Red Head brand Knee-High Waterproof Snake Boots
    705
    504 times
    Relic Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Evolution View Post
    That one actually looks like the back of a two piece button. That would make it more recent. Like 1840 or later. Th UP was likely part of a word. Maybe superior?... Not sure about the NC but my guess would also be part of a larger word.
    I am a watch guy also. I have a serious set of magnifier glasses with a light. I cannot see any other letters and those are raised letters. IMOP they were the only letters, really. So, we have UP and NC with a line over it. i need do some research, maybe that means a specific button company of something. I could be wrong, but strange the others would be worn to notta and leaving those raised like that. I appreciate your feedback. Maybe others will chime in also.
    Scott
    Rogue Relic Hunter
    Virginia Colony

    East Coast Relic Hunters - "We don't just read history, we save it!"



  6. #6
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    Detect smarter, not harder.

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    Minelab CTX 3030 & XP Deus
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    ??? Colonial Button ???

    I canít tell if itís corrosion, but that one looks like a two-piece thatís been squished. Iíve been tricked myself on those. The other looks like a marked back flat button, thicker, likely 1820-1840 but certainly not colonial.
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    Running totals:

    Hammered Silvers - 2
    Hammered Coppers - 1
    Milled Spanish Silver - 13
    Colonial State Coppers - 7
    United States Cent/Half cent Coppers - 122
    British & Other colonial Coppers - 102
    Slick coppers - too painful to talk about
    Silver Coins - 900-1000

    Favourite Finds:
    1665 1-reale Spanish Cob
    Revolutionary War stirrup
    1812 2nd Regiment Artillarists pewter button
    1695 Willam 3rd Halfpenny in excellent condition
    G.W. Inagural Buttons - 6 Point Estoile cuff variety
    Love token etched on 1859 seated Dime
    1852 Trimmy trimmy trime
    1831 Louis Phillippe 1st - 5 Franc
    1783 Nova Constelatio, Crosby-3C &. Crosby-1B
    1749 King George II Farthing (mint fresh)





    If it ain't at least seated, it aint Sh*t

  7. #7
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    Knowledge in machine struck coinage and colonial through 1800's Relics.

    Feb 2013
    New England, Somewhere Metal Detecting in the Woods
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    Early 1800's. Nice buttons!
    2014-2017 Finds
    1700s Sundial
    165? french liard
    1696 1774 1730s 17?? copper
    1723 irish Ĺ penny
    1730 KG coin toy
    2x AU 1803 LC
    1722 1/2 Penny
    1779, 1781Ĺ Real, ? 1 Real
    NJ Copper 1786
    1805,1838 LC
    26 Coppers 17 colonial
    175 1720-1850 buttons
    40 Musket Balls
    1906 1912 1934 dog Lics
    16 1700s Buckles 1 silver
    2 1700s spigot
    3 Thimbles 1 silver
    Cleaning Finds:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...ns-relics.html

  8. #8
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    Scott, founder of East Coast Relic Hunters

    Oct 2016
    Virginia Colony
    DETECTORS: XP Deus WS-4, Garrett AT Pro and Pro-Pointer, Fisher CZ-5 TOOLS: Piranha shovel & R85 Military digger, both by Predator Tools ATTIRE: Red Head brand Knee-High Waterproof Snake Boots
    705
    504 times
    Relic Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappy View Post
    I canít tell if itís corrosion, but that one looks like a two-piece thatís been squished. Iíve been tricked myself on those. The other looks like a marked back flat button, thicker, likely 1820-1840 but certainly not colonial.
    are you talking about button #1, the small button, that may be two piece and squished? after cleaning the bigger button #2, i def see it as 1800s with the back markings. but, good finds nonetheless, shows me there is some old stuff in that random farm field I had been eyeballing for quite some time. thanks for the reply.
    Scott
    Rogue Relic Hunter
    Virginia Colony

    East Coast Relic Hunters - "We don't just read history, we save it!"



  9. #9
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    Scott, founder of East Coast Relic Hunters

    Oct 2016
    Virginia Colony
    DETECTORS: XP Deus WS-4, Garrett AT Pro and Pro-Pointer, Fisher CZ-5 TOOLS: Piranha shovel & R85 Military digger, both by Predator Tools ATTIRE: Red Head brand Knee-High Waterproof Snake Boots
    705
    504 times
    Relic Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by coinman123 View Post
    Early 1800's. Nice buttons!
    after cleaning, i agree. not bad finds after a bunch of shot gun shells.
    Scott
    Rogue Relic Hunter
    Virginia Colony

    East Coast Relic Hunters - "We don't just read history, we save it!"



  10. #10
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    Apr 2013
    Canada
    Propointer ACE 250 Whites Prizm 5G Minelab E-Trac
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    1409 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (1)
    I agree with about 1820-40ish. I think the 'UP' is part of the word Superior and the 'NC' is probably 'NE' of the word Fine. You're in to the good stuff!
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  11. #11
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    Detect smarter, not harder.

    Mar 2014
    The NorthEast
    Minelab CTX 3030 & XP Deus
    8,143
    11278 times
    Metal Detecting
    Banner Finds (5)

    ??? Colonial Button ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Relic Hunter View Post
    are you talking about button #1, the small button, that may be two piece and squished? after cleaning the bigger button #2, i def see it as 1800s with the back markings. but, good finds nonetheless, shows me there is some old stuff in that random farm field I had been eyeballing for quite some time. thanks for the reply.
    The large one with the partial NE on the back looks like it has a corroded rim of a 2-piece. If I were holding it I could tell you for certain so I can only tell you what it looks like. And yes, of course theyíre good finds. Keep at it, youíre most certainly on some old ground. Cheers


    "Take the detecta-drama elsewhere - I'm just here to dig!"


    Running totals:

    Hammered Silvers - 2
    Hammered Coppers - 1
    Milled Spanish Silver - 13
    Colonial State Coppers - 7
    United States Cent/Half cent Coppers - 122
    British & Other colonial Coppers - 102
    Slick coppers - too painful to talk about
    Silver Coins - 900-1000

    Favourite Finds:
    1665 1-reale Spanish Cob
    Revolutionary War stirrup
    1812 2nd Regiment Artillarists pewter button
    1695 Willam 3rd Halfpenny in excellent condition
    G.W. Inagural Buttons - 6 Point Estoile cuff variety
    Love token etched on 1859 seated Dime
    1852 Trimmy trimmy trime
    1831 Louis Phillippe 1st - 5 Franc
    1783 Nova Constelatio, Crosby-3C &. Crosby-1B
    1749 King George II Farthing (mint fresh)





    If it ain't at least seated, it aint Sh*t

  12. #12
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    Scott, founder of East Coast Relic Hunters

    Oct 2016
    Virginia Colony
    DETECTORS: XP Deus WS-4, Garrett AT Pro and Pro-Pointer, Fisher CZ-5 TOOLS: Piranha shovel & R85 Military digger, both by Predator Tools ATTIRE: Red Head brand Knee-High Waterproof Snake Boots
    705
    504 times
    Relic Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by RelicMedic View Post
    I agree with about 1820-40ish. I think the 'UP' is part of the word Superior and the 'NC' is probably 'NE' of the word Fine. You're in to the good stuff!
    Agreed. Evolution told me something similar below, and I doubted it until i did some research on back marking of buttons. SUPERIOR and FINE, you are prob right. I'll take it, means I am onto something in that farm field.
    Scott
    Rogue Relic Hunter
    Virginia Colony

    East Coast Relic Hunters - "We don't just read history, we save it!"



  13. #13
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    Scott, founder of East Coast Relic Hunters

    Oct 2016
    Virginia Colony
    DETECTORS: XP Deus WS-4, Garrett AT Pro and Pro-Pointer, Fisher CZ-5 TOOLS: Piranha shovel & R85 Military digger, both by Predator Tools ATTIRE: Red Head brand Knee-High Waterproof Snake Boots
    705
    504 times
    Relic Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappy View Post
    The large one with the partial NE on the back looks like it has a corroded rim of a 2-piece. If I were holding it I could tell you for certain so I can only tell you what it looks like. And yes, of course theyíre good finds. Keep at it, youíre most certainly on some old ground. Cheers
    thanks Scrappy. headed back out there in the morning. need cross the James River to get there. hit it again. best of luck to you also!
    Scott
    Rogue Relic Hunter
    Virginia Colony

    East Coast Relic Hunters - "We don't just read history, we save it!"



  14. #14
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    art

    Dec 2015
    Maryland's eastern shore
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    Congrats on the buttons and good luck
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    Growing old is not for sissies I thought it would take longer to get old.

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    Scott, founder of East Coast Relic Hunters

    Oct 2016
    Virginia Colony
    DETECTORS: XP Deus WS-4, Garrett AT Pro and Pro-Pointer, Fisher CZ-5 TOOLS: Piranha shovel & R85 Military digger, both by Predator Tools ATTIRE: Red Head brand Knee-High Waterproof Snake Boots
    705
    504 times
    Relic Hunting
    thanks. headed back to that area next weekend to see what i scan tweak out.
    Scott
    Rogue Relic Hunter
    Virginia Colony

    East Coast Relic Hunters - "We don't just read history, we save it!"



 

 
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