🥇 BANNER Bucket lister-British trade musket serpent sideplate

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Closed out my 2017 hunts last week and man did I feel luckier than a lucky penny
when I pulled this intact British trade musket serpent sideplate out of the ground.
I've seen other examples posted online,but they were mostly broken off pieces.
Intact side plates are very rare cause first off these british muskets were notorious
for exploding barrels and so the sideplate would be destroyed in the process.
Also some Native tribes would "ritualistically" kill the serpent by breaking it into pieces
and burying it.
Beginning in 1690 English gun makers used decorative sideplates in place of loops
and scrolls and by the mid 1700's serpent sideplates were standard on British trade guns.
These serpent/dragon sideplates became a very important symbol of the fur trade.
For the Native,it came to mean they were getting the genuine article when they traded
the twenty or so beaver pelts it took to get a trade gun.
The snake was also spiritually significant for hunters and ensured fruitful hunting.
Indians had come to expect the trade gun had this serpent on it.
No snake,no deal.
Traders then obviously insisted upon it too.
Trade guns sporting these sideplates were also know as Northwest or Mackinaw guns.
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That is probably the best side plate I have ever seen. Way to go. I would think it was to a trade musket also.
 

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Wow such a cool piece right there
 

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beautiful, lucky you! I have found several pieces but never a whole piece! congrats :)
 

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beautiful, lucky you! I have found several pieces but never a whole piece! congrats :)

I have beginners luck I guess,‘‘tis my first sidepkate find.
Thank Abucooche
 

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Great find! I have one of the Indian trade guns hanging on the fireplace mantel.

My dad purchased it over 60 years ago. I have only seen 1 other in person my whole life.
 

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Super find in incredible condition. I have read too that the Indians along the Columbia River wouldn't trade for a gun unless it had the serpent.Choice find.Well deserved banner find
 

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GREAT FIND. As I sit here recuperating from knee surgery. Its finds like yours that probably going to do me in. If seeing your side plate doesn't get your motor running as a relic hunter then you need a serious tune up. You got me putting old pennies in the couch and finding them with my pin pointer. Congrats on your second banner find.
 

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Great find! I have one of the Indian trade guns hanging on the fireplace mantel.

My dad purchased it over 60 years ago. I have only seen 1 other in person my whole life.
Thanks you
I love the history of these muskets
 

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Super find in incredible condition. I have read too that the Indians along the Columbia River wouldn't trade for a gun unless it had the serpent.Choice find.Well deserved banner find

Thank you
 

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GREAT FIND. As I sit here recuperating from knee surgery. Its finds like yours that probably going to do me in. If seeing your side plate doesn't get your motor running as a relic hunter then you need a serious tune up. You got me putting old pennies in the couch and finding them with my pin pointer. Congrats on your second banner find.
Thank you,I’m still on cloud nine over this find.
Speedy recovery
 

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THAT IS ONE BAD AWS MUSEUM PIECE.
 

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Super find!

Nicely done, and all the best,

Lanny
 

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