🥇 BANNER Bucket lister-British trade musket serpent sideplate

Relicific

Silver Member
Feb 2, 2017
3,426
4,426
🥇 Banner finds
2
Detector(s) used
XP DEUS
X terra 705
Fisher F2
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Closed out my 2017 hunts last week and man did I feel luckier than a lucky penny
when I pulled this intact British trade musket serpent sideplate out of the ground.
I've seen other examples posted online,but they were mostly broken off pieces.
Intact side plates are very rare cause first off these british muskets were notorious
for exploding barrels and so the sideplate would be destroyed in the process.
Also some Native tribes would "ritualistically" kill the serpent by breaking it into pieces
and burying it.
Beginning in 1690 English gun makers used decorative sideplates in place of loops
and scrolls and by the mid 1700's serpent sideplates were standard on British trade guns.
These serpent/dragon sideplates became a very important symbol of the fur trade.
For the Native,it came to mean they were getting the genuine article when they traded
the twenty or so beaver pelts it took to get a trade gun.
The snake was also spiritually significant for hunters and ensured fruitful hunting.
Indians had come to expect the trade gun had this serpent on it.
No snake,no deal.
Traders then obviously insisted upon it too.
Trade guns sporting these sideplates were also know as Northwest or Mackinaw guns.
I've added a before and after cleaning photos.
 

Attachments

  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    58.8 KB · Views: 755
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    916.9 KB · Views: 663
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    279.5 KB · Views: 675
  • image.jpg
    image.jpg
    402.6 KB · Views: 756
  • 64DB30F6-6A3B-4826-85BB-1E545E799F85.jpeg
    64DB30F6-6A3B-4826-85BB-1E545E799F85.jpeg
    866.7 KB · Views: 596
Last edited:
Upvote 99
OP
OP
Relicific

Relicific

Silver Member
Feb 2, 2017
3,426
4,426
🥇 Banner finds
2
Detector(s) used
XP DEUS
X terra 705
Fisher F2
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting

Bill D. (VA)

Silver Member
Oct 7, 2008
4,711
6,212
SE Virginia
🥇 Banner finds
6
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
2
Detector(s) used
F75 SE (land); CZ-21 (saltwater)
Primary Interest:
Other
Wow - that is so cool!! Love to see unique finds like this - great job!!
 

Ahab8

Gold Member
Oct 15, 2013
8,408
8,288
Topsham, Maine
🥇 Banner finds
2
Detector(s) used
Teknetics T2 SE w/15' SEF Coil/ Minelab GPX 4500/2 Garrett Pro Pointers/3 Sets Killer B Headphones/ Koss Headphones/ Detekniy Wireless headphone Adapter
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Soooo....great BANNER find! I love staring at this early relic. The condition is just mind blowing
 

Underwonder

Bronze Member
Jul 31, 2017
1,645
2,985
RI
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
2
Detector(s) used
White's XLT Spectrum, TRX Pin-pointer, Garrett AT Pro Pin-pointer, Eagle II SL with Bigfoot, Equinox 600, Equinox 800
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Come on now....Banner already [emoji6]...Very nice, intact piece of history. A woodworker could make a cool replica to display that on! Very nice! Congratulations!
 

OP
OP
Relicific

Relicific

Silver Member
Feb 2, 2017
3,426
4,426
🥇 Banner finds
2
Detector(s) used
XP DEUS
X terra 705
Fisher F2
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Soooo....great BANNER find! I love staring at this early relic. The condition is just mind blowing

Thank you ahab8, yes after a light cleaning it’s looks awesome
 

OP
OP
Relicific

Relicific

Silver Member
Feb 2, 2017
3,426
4,426
🥇 Banner finds
2
Detector(s) used
XP DEUS
X terra 705
Fisher F2
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Come on now....Banner already [emoji6]...Very nice, intact piece of history. A woodworker could make a cool replica to display that on! Very nice! Congratulations!

Thank you Underwonder
 

Calabash Digger

Gold Member
Apr 18, 2016
5,300
11,756
🥇 Banner finds
2
Detector(s) used
XP DEUS II ,XP DEUS, EQUINOX 800, EXCALIBUR II,
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
That is a great find!
 

63bkpkr

Silver Member
Aug 9, 2007
4,069
4,618
Southern California
Detector(s) used
XLT, GMT, 6000D Coinmaster
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Congratulations on such a beautiful example of that side plate, it is amazing! Also, thank you for the history of the firearm and why that side plate looks as it does as your description added to the interest of your post, nicely done.....................63bkpkr
 

pepperj

Gold Member
Feb 3, 2009
37,512
139,072
🥇 Banner finds
1
Detector(s) used
Deus, Deus 2, Minelab 3030, E-Trac,
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Looks great up the top, congrats.
 

OP
OP
Relicific

Relicific

Silver Member
Feb 2, 2017
3,426
4,426
🥇 Banner finds
2
Detector(s) used
XP DEUS
X terra 705
Fisher F2
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Congratulations on such a beautiful example of that side plate, it is amazing! Also, thank you for the history of the firearm and why that side plate looks as it does as your description added to the interest of your post, nicely done.....................63bkpkr

Thank you
 

Aureus

Silver Member
Sep 5, 2016
4,215
8,346
Eastern Canada
🥇 Banner finds
4
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
2
Detector(s) used
XP DEUS
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Great to see such a beautiful relic at the top where it rightfully belongs. Congratulations!
 

OP
OP
Relicific

Relicific

Silver Member
Feb 2, 2017
3,426
4,426
🥇 Banner finds
2
Detector(s) used
XP DEUS
X terra 705
Fisher F2
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting

GB1

Gold Member
Jul 12, 2017
7,428
21,863
East TX
🥇 Banner finds
1
Detector(s) used
Teknectics eurotek pro
bounty hunter time ranger
bounty hunter quick draw 2
used a teroso compadre.
Primary Interest:
Other
sweet find congrats on banner
 

Top Member Reactions

Users who are viewing this thread

Top