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    'MERICA cockade button - KGII and pair of CW Eagles

    Hey guys,

    While you guys up north have been contending with snowstorms, it's been quite pleasant...if not a bit on the hot and buggy side, in SC . Perfect conditions to get out and swing the detector on another fresh permission in the low country. This site produced a few flats on a short scout so hopes were high that there may have been a 18th century homesite there. As with any new site, 90% of the targets were trash...shotgun shell and aluminum cans. Clearly someone had a blast in the 70s or 80s given the age of the bud cans. While frustration began to mount, I got a nice tight target on the XP deus. Expecting small trash, I kicked over the sandy top soil and to my surprise I was looking at the back of a small flat button. Unimpressed but happy to avoid the skunk, I flipped it over and was stunned to see this...

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    A little toothpicking and a bit of oil revealed one of the nicest flat buttons I've ever recovered. Albert lists this one as UU132 (unknown/unlisted), however after a bit of research this one falls into the generic category of patriotic/diplomatic. William Leigh was able to point to a one similar examples on cockades in some of the New England Historical Societies. This one dates from around 1812-1820 and just looks at that patina.

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    Not far from the main iron patch the buttons started flowing

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    This monster octagonal dandy is certainly an interesting one

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    Also score an interesting etched tombac and London flat with crown

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    The only military buttons recovered were a matching set of coat and cuff general service eagles. The cuff backmark is H. B & A. / (star) EXTRA (star), this is Horstmann Brothers & Allien, abbreviated mark only used on small button, ca 1860.

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    Any site with this many early flats was bound to have a coin somewhere. I don't recover many coppers in the LC so this one was a huge surprise - cut KGII 1727-1760.

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    Pair of horse tac buckles

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    Copper wedding ring

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    Colonial earring...copper with gold gilt?

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    Furniture hardware

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    Looking for help with these 2 - any ideas?

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    All in all, another quality hunt with the patriotic cockade being one of my favorites for the 2018 season. So glad the soil conditions were just right to save this one from the salt. Thanks for looking

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    Last edited by VMI Digger; Mar 12, 2018 at 03:12 PM.
    2018 Best Coins

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    -Pewter pipe fragment
    -SC militia button
    -General service eagles

  2. #2
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    us
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    The first unidentified one looks like a clock winding key.

    Nice finds, btw. Wish springtime would hurry up and come to NH. Y'all are starting to make me jealous, lol.
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    Wow! Now that's a button to be proud of right there. Killer patina and history, so congrats on it and the other finds, an awesome hunt.
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    Great group of finds, thanks for posting them.
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    Coinshooter

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    Great collection of finds there, well done!
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    Congrats on a nice variety of finds.
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  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback4sho View Post
    The first unidentified one looks like a clock winding key.

    Nice finds, btw. Wish springtime would hurry up and come to NH. Y'all are starting to make me jealous, lol.
    Thanks laidback, that was my guess as well- just seemed very heavy duty
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    2018 Best Coins

    -1721 Rosa Americana
    -1727-1760 KGII
    -1781 1 Real
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    -1805, 1816 Large Cent
    -1859, 1888 IHP
    -1867 Shield Nickle

    Oldest Coin To Date: 1607 Philip III 1/2 Real Cob

    2018 Best Relics

    -82nd Regiment of Foot
    -1812 Rifleman Regiment
    -1819 Navy officer button
    -1820 Patriotic cockade button
    -1660-1720 buckle
    -1500-1650 strap buckle pair
    -Pewter pipe fragment
    -SC militia button
    -General service eagles

  8. #8
    us
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    Quote Originally Posted by pepperj View Post
    Wow! Now that's a button to be proud of right there. Killer patina and history, so congrats on it and the other finds, an awesome hunt.
    Thanks pepper, yea read my mind...new avatar up
    pepperj likes this.
    2018 Best Coins

    -1721 Rosa Americana
    -1727-1760 KGII
    -1781 1 Real
    -1783 Nova Constellatio
    -1786 1/2 Real
    -1797 1 Real
    -1805, 1816 Large Cent
    -1859, 1888 IHP
    -1867 Shield Nickle

    Oldest Coin To Date: 1607 Philip III 1/2 Real Cob

    2018 Best Relics

    -82nd Regiment of Foot
    -1812 Rifleman Regiment
    -1819 Navy officer button
    -1820 Patriotic cockade button
    -1660-1720 buckle
    -1500-1650 strap buckle pair
    -Pewter pipe fragment
    -SC militia button
    -General service eagles

  9. #9
    us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phishfarmer View Post
    Great group of finds, thanks for posting them.
    Thanks phish
    2018 Best Coins

    -1721 Rosa Americana
    -1727-1760 KGII
    -1781 1 Real
    -1783 Nova Constellatio
    -1786 1/2 Real
    -1797 1 Real
    -1805, 1816 Large Cent
    -1859, 1888 IHP
    -1867 Shield Nickle

    Oldest Coin To Date: 1607 Philip III 1/2 Real Cob

    2018 Best Relics

    -82nd Regiment of Foot
    -1812 Rifleman Regiment
    -1819 Navy officer button
    -1820 Patriotic cockade button
    -1660-1720 buckle
    -1500-1650 strap buckle pair
    -Pewter pipe fragment
    -SC militia button
    -General service eagles

  10. #10
    ''Looking for help with these 2 - any ideas?''


    ​I forget the name but the clock winding looking thing is actually for one of those machines that go on the piano & ticks to keep the time.

    The other is actually a leather decor which went on horses.
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  11. #11
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    Damn buddy that button is gorgeous! That thing is so eye appealing! Congrats buddy
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  12. #12
    us
    Feb 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    ''Looking for help with these 2 - any ideas?''


    ​I forget the name but the clock winding looking thing is actually for one of those machines that go on the piano & ticks to keep the time.

    The other is actually a leather decor which went on horses.
    Spot on Cru as usual - its a metronome key

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    2018 Best Coins

    -1721 Rosa Americana
    -1727-1760 KGII
    -1781 1 Real
    -1783 Nova Constellatio
    -1786 1/2 Real
    -1797 1 Real
    -1805, 1816 Large Cent
    -1859, 1888 IHP
    -1867 Shield Nickle

    Oldest Coin To Date: 1607 Philip III 1/2 Real Cob

    2018 Best Relics

    -82nd Regiment of Foot
    -1812 Rifleman Regiment
    -1819 Navy officer button
    -1820 Patriotic cockade button
    -1660-1720 buckle
    -1500-1650 strap buckle pair
    -Pewter pipe fragment
    -SC militia button
    -General service eagles

  13. #13
    us
    Feb 2014
    Lowcountry, South Carolina
    CTX-3030, Equinox 800, Deus XP, Garrett Pro Pointer
    3,075
    3918 times
    Relic Hunting
    Banner Finds (3)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ken C View Post
    Great collection of finds there, well done!
    Thanks Ken, quite a nice spread
    2018 Best Coins

    -1721 Rosa Americana
    -1727-1760 KGII
    -1781 1 Real
    -1783 Nova Constellatio
    -1786 1/2 Real
    -1797 1 Real
    -1805, 1816 Large Cent
    -1859, 1888 IHP
    -1867 Shield Nickle

    Oldest Coin To Date: 1607 Philip III 1/2 Real Cob

    2018 Best Relics

    -82nd Regiment of Foot
    -1812 Rifleman Regiment
    -1819 Navy officer button
    -1820 Patriotic cockade button
    -1660-1720 buckle
    -1500-1650 strap buckle pair
    -Pewter pipe fragment
    -SC militia button
    -General service eagles

  14. #14
    us
    Feb 2014
    Lowcountry, South Carolina
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahab8 View Post
    Damn buddy that button is gorgeous! That thing is so eye appealing! Congrats buddy
    Thanks Abe, definitely my favorite button dug this year. Crazy that a copper flat could survive this close to the coast for 200 years and look this good.
    2018 Best Coins

    -1721 Rosa Americana
    -1727-1760 KGII
    -1781 1 Real
    -1783 Nova Constellatio
    -1786 1/2 Real
    -1797 1 Real
    -1805, 1816 Large Cent
    -1859, 1888 IHP
    -1867 Shield Nickle

    Oldest Coin To Date: 1607 Philip III 1/2 Real Cob

    2018 Best Relics

    -82nd Regiment of Foot
    -1812 Rifleman Regiment
    -1819 Navy officer button
    -1820 Patriotic cockade button
    -1660-1720 buckle
    -1500-1650 strap buckle pair
    -Pewter pipe fragment
    -SC militia button
    -General service eagles

  15. #15
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    Congratualtions on the nice old coins and relics!
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