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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth1253 View Post
    Thanks for the education STC. So is it more common to find any tree coin while or cut. Although very rare to find any tree coin period I was assuming more whole coins are found than cut due to size?
    Thankfully, it's more common to find whole coins at least up in New England. I believe the cut coins are more frequently encountered down in Virginia - Spanish pistareens. Other members can speak to that better than I. My last Mass Silver was a holed two-pence from last year. Then there's the cut shilling. They're awesome finds but still a bit bittersweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Tree Chaser View Post
    Thankfully, it's more common to find whole coins at least up in New England. I believe the cut coins are more frequently encountered down in Virginia - Spanish pistareens. Other members can speak to that better than I. My last Mass Silver was a holed two-pence from last year. Then there's the cut shilling. They're awesome finds but still a bit bittersweet.
    Bittersweet is not an emotion Im experiencing at all. Probably 99.9% of detectorists will never get their coil over one, cut or whole
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  3. #33
    Toasted - Understood! Mass Silver with the minting of the New England type coinage in 1652 were the very first silver coins minted in North America. So congrats to you! Recovering such a coin down your way is an impressive feat. I hope you pound that site good and have more discoveries to post in the near future.
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    Sweet historic recoveries! Love those incredibly rare and old silvers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by toasted View Post
    Thanks. Definately in my top three favorite finds. I wonder how often cut Massachusetts silver is found compared to whole coins. I would love to know why this one was cut down so small. It rang up in the pull tab range too

    Very few cut tree coin specimens are found compared to whole coins. I know of perhaps a dozen examples. My first Mass silver was a cut Pine Tree Shilling. A week later I dug a complete Oak Tree Shilling. I followed that up with a Pine Tree Threepence (uncut).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Tree Chaser View Post
    Thankfully, it's more common to find whole coins at least up in New England. I believe the cut coins are more frequently encountered down in Virginia - Spanish pistareens. Other members can speak to that better than I. My last Mass Silver was a holed two-pence from last year. Then there's the cut shilling. They're awesome finds but still a bit bittersweet.
    You know youíve found too many Mass silvers when you feel a bit of disappointment at pulling a cut piece lol. Iím just playing bud. I understand exactly what youíre saying. Itís just mind blowing that Toasted found a piece that small with a date. I knew with that little piece it could be idíd fairly easily. Man Iíd lose my mind if I found a Willow tree. Straight up heart attack if a NE popped out.
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    This is so cool. What a spot you have there! I really like that you got the part of the coin with the tree and the date. It is a weird shape to be cut. I wonder the story behind it? Oh and banner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxbowbarefoot View Post
    Very few cut tree coin specimens are found compared to whole coins. I know of perhaps a dozen examples. My first Mass silver was a cut Pine Tree Shilling. A week later I dug a complete Oak Tree Shilling. I followed that up with a Pine Tree Threepence (uncut).
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    I didnt know any cut silver was found in New England because I dont even see cut Pistareens come out of New England much if at all. Perhaps there was an influx of small copper change in New England by the time of the Pistareen but not when Mass silver circulated. I get a little bit of both here in Marland. Closer to equal amounts of copper small change and silvers( more coppers obviously) while further south it is nearly all silver, mostly cut
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    Congratulations! I'm sure you are still on Cloud Nine! I will always vote Banner on a Tree Coin!
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    Holy historic finds Batman! That pine tree fragment with the date is amazing! The Cromwell government was not too fond of these pesky American colonists making these coins.
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    We have 2 cut MASS: a pine tree and an oak tree. I also have a complete oak tree sixpence for 3 MASS silvers total. I watched a guy dig a 1/4 cut of a shilling but it was so long ago I don't even remember the type. But remember he got the 52 of the date and the tree detail was clear. And I know some Virginians have posted cuts in here too. So I agree, there are more cut MASS found around here than whole. No prob. I'll take the cut MASS all day long.
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    Absolutely incredible!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwdigger View Post
    We have 2 cut MASS: a pine tree and an oak tree. I also have a complete oak tree sixpence for 3 MASS silvers total. I watched a guy dig a 1/4 cut of a shilling but it was so long ago I don't even remember the type. But remember he got the 52 of the date and the tree detail was clear. And I know some Virginians have posted cuts in here too. So I agree, there are more cut MASS found around here than whole. No prob. I'll take the cut MASS all day long.
    Yeah Ill probably dig another gold coin before I find another piece of one of these. Did you also find a lot of cobs or other early silvers where you found your Mass silver?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooper Dave View Post
    Absolutely incredible!
    Thanks. Incredible site. Glad I got to be the one to discover it
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    Quote Originally Posted by toasted View Post
    Yeah Ill probably dig another gold coin before I find another piece of one of these. Did you also find a lot of cobs or other early silvers where you found your Mass silver?
    2 of the MASS sites did produce multiple cobs. The other MASS was found at 1679 site and it was the only coin found so far. When you find other, similar sites, and you will eventually, I believe you'll turn up more.

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