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    1767 FRENCH GRENADIER SWORD!!! Pepperbox Pistol and our 100th Seated Silver!

    Hello All,

    I'm absolutely shocked. Evidently I've just dug a 250 year old, 1700's military sword of the type carried by the U.S. Continental infantry troops during the Rev War. There aren't too many things I could dig and be completely shocked. Well this is it. Here's the video:



    Went out with Shangalang and my wife, Diggergirl. We hit the cane fields after speaking to the owner of the property and seeing how they were doing and how their Thanksgiving was going. Pretty soon Shang hit a shield nickel, then I got a V. Then Diggergirl came smiling with a broken brass hammer used for working around natural gas and oil (won't spark). But it was a psych out, as she then opened her hand to reveal our 100th Seated coin dug since we started digging in 2012: a taco bent 1851-O Half Dime:

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    After that I eyeballed a nice Shield nickel on top of the ground:

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    Then surprisingly I eyeballed another--also right on top!

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    The craziest part is that BOTH of these coins had dates--1869 and 1871! (Although I knew that the second one would be a nice one when I wiped it off in the field)

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    We eyeballed a ton of porcelain buttons. Common to find a few. Uncommon to find a handful:

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    Then Shang left after lunch to prepare to roast a whole pig and DG and I kept digging! Soon DG came running up with a find I've never seen made before in person--what I strongly suspected to be a PEPPERBOX PISTOL! Doing some quick googling confirmed it! I'm almost positive that this is an Allen & Thurber six shot pepperbox pistol from c.1837!

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    After light cleaning, I was pleased to be able to open up almost all of the percussion cap nipples with a safety pin, and all but one barrel cleaned out well (the last barrel may actually still be loaded).

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    Then Digger Girl got a lead toy cannon (early 20th c) and this strange tiny brass arrow that looks like it was braised onto something:

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    I walked up on a nice find, a Civil War Enfield tompion, where it had washed out of the ground:

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    Then I got a nice, 12 inch deep 86 reading. Too low for a silver half. Too high for a silver quarter on my F75. I was thinking that it had to be a piece of brass pipe (we've found some plumbing stuff in this site, as it's a mixed site with old and new, including a lot of aluminum can!). Over a foot down in the top of a row rolled out what I thought was exactly that--a brass piece of pipe. But I picked it up and it was HEAVY. Then I saw the shape and started screaming "SWORD!!! SWORD!!!!"

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    I just couldn't believe it. It was an entirely intact pommel except for the knucklebow and cross. But then I started searching online and wrote to the international sword forum for an ID and what came back shocked me even more! It's a model 1767 French Marine Grenadier Sabre! I'm just STUNNED to see this 250 year old military relic. SHOCKED! So it's either Colonial French or Rev War in provenance. Take your pick; in South Louisiana it's a toss up!

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    EDIT: Closer investigation reveals that it may be more like this style of the M1767, with the scalloped top. Note the ever-so-slightly different shape where the knuckle bow meets the grip:

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    I'm just shocked. Humbled by history.


    Wishing all of you the best,


    Buckles
    Last edited by BuckleBoy; Nov 29, 2018 at 09:45 AM.
    2018 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    1782 2 Reales
    177?, 179?, 180?, 1805 and 1810 Half Reales
    1834 and dateless Capped Bust Half Dimes
    1840-O(?), 1841-O, two 1851-O's, two 1853-O's, 1854-O, 1856, 1858-O and 1860 Seated Half Dime
    1844, 1859-S, and 1887 Seated Dimes
    1850 Large Cent
    1881 Canadian Large Cent
    M1767 French Marine Grenadier Sword
    c. 1837 Allen & Thurber Pepperbox Pistol
    Pelican Civil War Button
    U.S. Bit Boss
    3 Eagle Buttons
    Staff Officer Cuff and Cavalry Cuff Buttons
    14K gold and 10K men’s wedding rings and four silver rings
    Monogrammed Silver Shirt Collar Button
    1876-S and 1891 Seated Liberty Quarters
    1919 and 1928-D Standing Liberty Quarters
    1941 and 1953-D Washington Quarters
    1943 and 1944 Silver War Nickels
    Civil War bullets and a shoulder scale button
    Utah ghost town token
    Union Pacific railroad lock
    1869 and 1871 Shield Nickels and dateless Shield Nickels
    V Nackles, Beefalo knuckles and Gaw Gag

    OUR 2017 YEAR-END POST:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...ts-photos.html
    OUR 2016 YEAR-END POST:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/20...ml#post5286759
    OUR 2015 YEAR-END POST:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...what-year.html
    OUR 2014 YEAR-END POST:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...lots-pics.html
    OUR 2013 YEAR-END POST:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...-end-post.html
    OUR 2012 YEAR END POST:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/20...ml#post3120940


    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my signatures were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  2. #2
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    A hunt like that one would just in a dream for me now.Awesome.
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    Helluva pile of finds there! Amazing what comes out of that place. It has to be like walking back in time being out there. Thanks for sharing those with us.

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    Awesome hunt!
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    Interesting and productive hunt. Enjoyed your post. Congrats!
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    "And so the population was gradually led into the demoralising temptations of arcades, baths, and sumptuous banquets. The unsuspecting Britons spoke of such novelties as 'civilisation', when in fact they were only a feature of their enslavement." Tacitus, Roman Senator and Historian, written AD 98.

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    Congrats on a hunt of a lifetime! wow, the history that you guys dug. the pepperbox pistol is a dream come true (or would be for me at least), the seated would be super nice, the nice V nickles and then that sword handle, what a hunt!
    BuckleBoy, Hawks88 and buck8point like this.
    LUKE 15 : 8 "OR WHAT WOMAN, IF SHE HAS TEN SILVER COINS AND LOSES ONE COIN,DOES NOT LIGHT A LAMP AND SWEEP THE HOUSE AND SEARCH CAREFULLY UNTIL SHE FINDS IT?" 15 : 9 "AND WHEN SHE HAS FOUND IT, SHE CALLS TOGETHER HER FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, SAYING, "REJOICE WITH ME, FOR I HAVE FOUND THE COIN WHICH I HAD LOST!"

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    us
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    AT Pro, XP Deus
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    Congrats on a bunch of tremendous finds. 100 seated coins is quite a milestone. Kudos to you and your fellow hunters!!!
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  8. #8
    us
    Aug 2018
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    Thanks for sharing, enjoyed your post and congrats on the finds!
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    That is one fantastic relic and coin shooting hunt!
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  10. #10
    us
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    Um wow. What a variety of amazing old finds. Nice going!!
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  11. #11

    Feb 2007
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    Wow, what a day.
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    WTG, BB, Shang & DG!!! Your "usual" exceptional coin & relic finds!

    Iowa Dale
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  13. #13
    An absolutely astounding hunt! Big congratulations, what an amazing variety of finds!
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    Da Deus Fortunae

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    Wow!!!! Boy are my eyes green with envy. You guys really had a fantastic hunt.
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    If you’re not digging trash you are missing treasure.

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    Who dat? Who der
    Will, holy moly bro! That sword grip is incredible. Then the usual standard of Cane Bandit killer finds. Great to see you’re on the good stuff. Way to go
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    "Take the detecta-drama elsewhere - I'm just here to dig!"


    Running totals:

    Hammered Silvers - 2
    Hammered Coppers - 1
    Milled Spanish Silver - 14
    Transitional US State Coppers - 9
    United States Cent/Half cent Coppers - 131
    British & Other colonial Coppers - 107
    Slick coppers - too painful to talk about
    Silver Coins - We’ll over a 1000

    Favourite Finds:
    1665 1-reale Spanish Cob
    Revolutionary War stirrup
    1812 2nd Regiment Artillarists pewter button
    1695 Willam 3rd Halfpenny in excellent condition
    G.W. Inagural Buttons - 6 Point Estoile cuff variety
    Love token etched on 1859 seated Dime
    1831 Louis Phillippe 1st - 5 Franc
    1783 Nova Constelatio, Crosby-3C &. Crosby-1B
    1749 Regal King George II Farthing
    1776 Counter King George iii





    If it ain't at least seated, it aint Sh*t

 

 
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