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    Colonial Crest Badges

    I found these crest badges on an ancient rotted horse collar.

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    My research says they're from the Barrrowe family of England. I'm pretty sure they were Lord Fairfax grantees but can't substantiate that. Any info on the family
    or it's history in the UK would be most welcome. As a result of my research, I've discovered that I live on a tract sectioned off of their original plantation. It was quite a large tract of land with multiple family dwellings on it. The size of the tract and the crest badges are what leads me to think they were grantees. After discovering these facts I subsequently copied the medallion and made an amulet.


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    Thanks for reading!

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    Nice!!! Congrats!!!
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    This site suggests its the Sleigh family crest.

    Email the site owner he will help you, he used to be registered on here.

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    Thanks Crusader, I'd hoped you'd comment, as I'm sure you have better access to related info on your side of the Atlantic!

    I had quite a time IDing this crest. I spent a great deal of time looking at crests on line and could only come vaguely close. While looking at the badge I noticed the design of the cross and was able to find images that IDed it as a "Fitched cross with crosslets". After looking at many images on line with that search string I finally found an ad photo from a jeweler in London that matched the crest perfectly. One of their main business features was crest jewelry carved from semi precious stones. I wrote to them and sent photos. In a couple of weeks I got an email back. They included a copy of a page from Fairbairn's Book of Crests that showed the exact image with a complete description. The text included seven surnames associated with the crest and Barrowe was at the top of the list. I had a computer meltdown soon after that and lost all that info, so I can't say if Sleigh was on the list or not. Here is a link directly to Fairbairn's Book-https://archive.org/details/fairbairnsbookof01fair/page/n53 .

    I searched as best I could for listings of historic homes in Virginia and West Virginia but could only find a listing for Barrowe/Barrow. For some reason in Virginia even from colonial times the census takers wrote in script. Often they didn't speak to the landowners but to any credible Caucasian individual they came to. Reason being it saved traipsing all over several hundred acres trying to find the Squire. Hence names got written down like they sounded or misspelled and subsequent census lists may have reflected those mistakes. And of course since I'm living on a piece of the Barrowe plantation I'm a little partial in that direction.

    Best wishes and thanks to all for reading!
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    Nice finds. Congrats and congrats to Cru. For the research and ID Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reanm8er View Post
    Thanks Crusader, I'd hoped you'd comment, as I'm sure you have better access to related info on your side of the Atlantic!

    I had quite a time IDing this crest. I spent a great deal of time looking at crests on line and could only come vaguely close. While looking at the badge I noticed the design of the cross and was able to find images that IDed it as a "Fitched cross with crosslets". After looking at many images on line with that search string I finally found an ad photo from a jeweler in London that matched the crest perfectly. One of their main business features was crest jewelry carved from semi precious stones. I wrote to them and sent photos. In a couple of weeks I got an email back. They included a copy of a page from Fairbairn's Book of Crests that showed the exact image with a complete description. The text included seven surnames associated with the crest and Barrowe was at the top of the list. I had a computer meltdown soon after that and lost all that info, so I can't say if Sleigh was on the list or not. Here is a link directly to Fairbairn's Book-https://archive.org/details/fairbairnsbookof01fair/page/n53 .

    I searched as best I could for listings of historic homes in Virginia and West Virginia but could only find a listing for Barrowe/Barrow. For some reason in Virginia even from colonial times the census takers wrote in script. Often they didn't speak to the landowners but to any credible Caucasian individual they came to. Reason being it saved traipsing all over several hundred acres trying to find the Squire. Hence names got written down like they sounded or misspelled and subsequent census lists may have reflected those mistakes. And of course since I'm living on a piece of the Barrowe plantation I'm a little partial in that direction.

    Best wishes and thanks to all for reading!
    All very good but one of the main issues you will have to tie it down to one of the many options is that with metal items there are rarely any colours & just the change of colour of the cross for example will change the family.
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    PS. They are very rare items, that I've yet to find
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    I dont know if this helps or only adds confusion, yet since the doward arm of the cross is pointed its is also called a Santiago Cross or in english a Cross of St. James.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Saint_James

    A google picture search for "Lion Cross of St. James" did not bring me any useable results.


    Greeets Namxat
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    Very cool!!!!!!
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    The dagger like end of the cross is what is referred to as fitched in English heraldry. I agree CRUSADER even the coloration of the tufts below the lion are of varied colors.
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    Now those are some different finds. Congrats on the pair.
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    I really like what you've found, special stuff, and of course CRUSADER "IS" our English source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sprailroad View Post
    I really like what you've found, special stuff, and of course CRUSADER "IS" our English source.
    Thanks but I've never studied heraldry in any depth. Very specialist subject, I only specialist broadly across all British finds.
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    Awesome finds, thank you for sharing!
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