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  1. #46
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    Thanks for all the banner votes!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg3131 View Post
    Thanks for all the banner votes!!
    Definitely banner worthy especially considering how few have been posted ever and none have made it. I think this is only the second cut piece posted since I joined in 2015. I really hope to see one up top some day. So much history and rarity and should be a no brainer banner especially to anyone who has ever hunted colonial
    Last edited by toasted; Jan 11, 2019 at 01:13 PM.
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    Very nice find indeed.

    Just one point - ''Schilling'' is German, you mean Shilling which is English.
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  4. #49
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    Well I am voting banner now. Maybe this one will get up there.
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    WOW! Definitely Banner worthy!

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    Great bucket-lister of a coin, cut or not. Happy for you and just as jealous. Any MA silver is worthy of banner, IMHO.
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    Absolutely beautiful. Great pix, great story, great post !
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    Banner job just incredible. We need the story.
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    So basically story is this is an old farm in Central Virginia which I was told had a mid 1800s homesite on it at one time. While searching a field about 100 yards from the mid 1800s house site the first time I started finding old brick and pottery then started digging 1700s tombac buttons and realized there must have been an earlier house in this field as the mid 1800s house was in another field quite far away I also dug a 1722 Cut Spanish and other colonial relics. So after returning I hit that same field and as mentioned in my post was able to save this in the back part of the field near a hole which appeared to hold remnants of a colonial chimney. This location seems to have had a very old house which has been gone for a very long time as there is no modern trash. One of those dream sites although I returned today and only found a few harmonica reed pieces and a few flat buttons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg3131 View Post
    So basically story is this is an old farm in Central Virginia which I was told had a mid 1800s homesite on it at one time. While searching a field about 100 yards from the mid 1800s house site the first time I started finding old brick and pottery then started digging 1700s tombac buttons and realized there must have been an earlier house in this field as the mid 1800s house was in another field quite far away I also dug a 1722 Cut Spanish and other colonial relics. So after returning I hit that same field and as mentioned in my post was able to save this in the back part of the field near a hole which appeared to hold remnants of a colonial chimney. This location seems to have had a very old house which has been gone for a very long time as there is no modern trash. One of those dream sites although I returned today and only found a few harmonica reed pieces and a few flat buttons.
    Sounds like a great spot. Seems yours could’ve somehow survived into circulation alongside the cut Pistareens of the middle 18th century. I found mine among smaller whole and cut cobs of the circa 1710 time period. Im sure the ocassional cut tree coin was an oddity in everyday transactions especially by this time but was known and accepted when if ever encountered. Finding cut silver is about as good as it can get and a cut tree is even better. Sure a whole one would be nice but so few larger silvers of any kind of this period escaped cutting especially here along the mid Atlantic
    Last edited by toasted; Jan 11, 2019 at 08:48 PM.
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    Cut 1652 Massachusetts Oak Tree "spiny tree" schilling

    Quote Originally Posted by toasted View Post
    Definitely banner worthy especially considering how few have been posted ever and none have made it. I think this is only the second cut piece posted since I joined in 2015. I really hope to see one up top some day. So much history and rarity and should be a no brainer banner especially to anyone who has ever hunted colonial
    Toasted already knows my feelings on Mass silvers and my BANNER thoughts. This was the first coin ever minted in what would eventually become America. And this coin was minted nearly 100 years prior to that! Ok guys please don’t tell me my math is terrible....Mass silvers were not actually minted in 1652....it was about 30 years later. The circumstances of that alone make these coins so much more interesting. I won’t bore everybody with a long history lesson or go into a comparison of the rarity of a Mass silver next to the majority of gold coins (which I would love to find). But at the end of the day if you believe scarcity, incredible early history, fooling the English and a silver coin with a date that says 1652 is amazing like I do you should all hit the BANNER button. It is so worthy of being at the top for all to enjoy. Just like Toasted’s amazing cut piece and just like any other Mass silver that is pulled from the dirt. I was lucky in the fact that mine was whole and pretty and had a 1664 cob beside it. But these are ALL incredible with a unique story and a very important place in our early history.
    Last edited by Ahab8; Jan 12, 2019 at 05:03 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg3131 View Post
    So basically story is this is an old farm in Central Virginia which I was told had a mid 1800s homesite on it at one time. While searching a field about 100 yards from the mid 1800s house site the first time I started finding old brick and pottery then started digging 1700s tombac buttons and realized there must have been an earlier house in this field as the mid 1800s house was in another field quite far away I also dug a 1722 Cut Spanish and other colonial relics. So after returning I hit that same field and as mentioned in my post was able to save this in the back part of the field near a hole which appeared to hold remnants of a colonial chimney. This location seems to have had a very old house which has been gone for a very long time as there is no modern trash. One of those dream sites although I returned today and only found a few harmonica reed pieces and a few flat buttons.
    Luv this on-going "feel" picture of events. After having returned from a big hunt in VA (which had such plantation-style homestead sites) you can just FEEL the history beneath your feet. And pace-out the perimeters , etc...... Good story.
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  13. #58
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    Amazing historical find. Congrats! Banner vote is in.
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  14. #59
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    Thankful to hear all this commentary and your knowledge on this coin. I have learned a lot. Fascinating stuff.
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