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  1. #1

    Apr 2016
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    GW Button!!!!

    Decided to take another shot at finding an 1862 dot in the park woods. What is interesting about this dot is that it disappears on the 1872 map and the aerials in the 1900’s show nothing but woods. I had tried a couple of times with my old detector with nothing but an occasional shotgun shell head stamp.
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    Today I wandered in the same area and got 2 quick cuff flat buttons and a partial big tombac button. These were really small 11-12 signals with the Nox.
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    A couple big rifle casings and head stamps, then a really nice deep 21-21 signal. This is often a 2 piece button or a zincoln.
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    Thought cool, big dandy button. I have only dug a few of them in my area. Did the Hoover Boys “please be a GW...” chant and popped some dirt off.
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    Ok, can’t be.... time to send some shaky pics to Steve...
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    I don’t have a toothbrush on me and it’s starting to dry out so I pack it in dirt and hike back to my car.
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    Quick call to Steve to game plan next step. Should I... use mineral oil to keep from drying out, just toothbrush, use Renn wax, etc. Decided to pluck it out o the clod, toothbrush the dirt away and while I was still a little winded nose grease it up before it dries out too much... stressful moments.
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    There is a lot of gilt on the back and in the engraved front areas. Seems to have stabilized here. Thoughts on lemon juice to clean up gilt or next step??

    Wow, still shaking. Good luck out there!

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  2. #2
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    papa

    Feb 2017
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    THAT is a realy gorgeous button! Nice patina, and gilding in all the right places. I'd frame that one and hang it on the wall. Outstanding! Banner!!!


    "And so the population was gradually led into the demoralising temptations of arcades, baths, and sumptuous banquets. The unsuspecting Britons spoke of such novelties as 'civilisation', when in fact they were only a feature of their enslavement." Tacitus, Roman Senator and Historian, written AD 98.

  3. #3
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    Wow!!! Let us know what you do to clean/stabilize.

  4. #4
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    Jul 2018
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    Awesome! I would leave it as is. Congrats!

  5. #5
    I use lemon juice a lot, but I would not use it on that button. It looks good enough, & although it will shine up some areas, it will also darken the copper & it won't look as nice. LEAVE IT.

    CONGRATS
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

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  6. #6

    Apr 2016
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kray Gelder View Post
    THAT is a realy gorgeous button! Nice patina, and gilding in all the right places. I'd frame that one and hang it on the wall. Outstanding! Banner!!!
    Thx! Still in shock that this happened less than 3 hrs ago. Seems like the patina is staying pretty uniform.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Signal View Post
    Wow!!! Let us know what you do to clean/stabilize.
    Thx! This button came out clean, no encrusted dirt/corrosion, just damp cloth to wipe dirt away and a couple layers of the old handy nose grease so far, we’ll see if further cleaning, preservation is required

    Quote Originally Posted by DigginNorthernVa View Post
    Awesome! I would leave it as is. Congrats!
    Thx! That’s the plan at this point.


    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    I use lemon juice a lot, but I would not use it on that button. It looks good enough, & although it will shine up some areas, it will also darken the copper & it won't look as nice. LEAVE IT.

    CONGRATS
    Thx Cru! I remember reading one of your posts on not slabbing your coins because you like to be able to hold them in your hands. I might take your advice and see this button on my coat.... just kidding. I have not found a button with enough gilt to give the lemon juice method a try, so not thinking this would be a good test button.

  7. #7
    us
    Sep 2011
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    Cool piece of history, thanks for sharing and congratulations on a bucket lister for you guys back east. I guess it could happen out here, but i'm not going to hold my breath...

  8. #8
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    Title? old fart

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    A Holy Cow moment for sure! What an awesome button find! Beautiful and crazy cool! I am totally envious of you guys that have those to find! I take it that you like that Nox. Center piece for sure. Congrats and it is Banner worthy in my book
    LUKE 15 : 8 "OR WHAT WOMAN, IF SHE HAS TEN SILVER COINS AND LOSES ONE COIN,DOES NOT LIGHT A LAMP AND SWEEP THE HOUSE AND SEARCH CAREFULLY UNTIL SHE FINDS IT?" 15 : 9 "AND WHEN SHE HAS FOUND IT, SHE CALLS TOGETHER HER FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, SAYING, "REJOICE WITH ME, FOR I HAVE FOUND THE COIN WHICH I HAD LOST!"

  9. #9
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    OMG! That is in BEAUTIFUL condition! Congrats and BANNER all the way!

  10. #10
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    Jul 2010
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    Looks great as is Thad. I wouldn't do anything further except find a nice case for it. I have one I can give you next time I see you. I'm amazed at all the exceptional early finds you have made considering you haven't dug a large volume of material from that period. Let's see...Nova and NJ coppers, War of 1812 cross belt plate, rattlesnake button, sword guard, and now a GWI. I probably left some things out. Regardless, this is only the second GWI that I am aware of to come out of SW PA. My only regret is that I can only vote Banner once!
    Spanish Silver Totals
    Cut Pieces = 19
    Half Reals = 30
    1 Reals = 11
    2 Reales = 6
    8 Reales = 1
    2 Reale Cobs = 2
    Other Early Silver Coins
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    1830 Capped Bust 5 cents
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    1661 Hammered silver King Leopold
    1697 William III 6-pence
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  11. #11
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    I Cut My Way Through

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    Incredible detail on that bird!

  12. #12
    us
    Jul 2010
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    I don't think there is any gilt left on the face except in the recesses. You could try lemon juice on the back but I would apply it with a q-tip. I think lemon juice on the front would attack the patina
    pa-dirt_nc-sand and devldog like this.
    Spanish Silver Totals
    Cut Pieces = 19
    Half Reals = 30
    1 Reals = 11
    2 Reales = 6
    8 Reales = 1
    2 Reale Cobs = 2
    Other Early Silver Coins
    1797 & 1803 Draped Bust Dimes
    1830 Capped Bust 5 cents
    1827 Capped Bust dime
    1661 Hammered silver King Leopold
    1697 William III 6-pence
    Rev War Buttons
    3rd Battalion PA, Hartley's Regiment, USA, (4) 18th Royal Irish, (2) Rattlesnake & Stars
    Civil War Plates
    VA Militia Cross Belt, CS Tongue, CS Wreath, VMM, US Box, Model 1851 Sword, Militia Plate w/Star

  13. #13
    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
    Upstate NY
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    Looks awesome just the way it is. Gotta love finding one of the most desirable finds out there. Amazing history behind that one. Congrats!
    Best Finds:

    1786 Vermont Landscape Copper (Ryder 7 variety)
    1787 Vermont Copper
    1787 New Jersey Copper (Maris 63 variety)
    1797 and 1804 DBLCs
    George Washington Inaugural Button (GW 1 type)
    1872 Indian Head Cent (VF/EF condition)
    1866 Indian Head Cent (EF condition)
    1864 "L" Indian Head Cent
    Hard Times Tokens---2
    1840 Gen. Harrison Campaign Token
    1832 Nova Scotia Halfpenny Token
    Two cent pieces---7
    1721 King George I
    1732 King George II
    Barber Half dollars---3
    War Of 1812 Shoulder Belt Plate

  14. #14
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    Tommy

    Dec 2015
    Ann Arbor
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    Banner freakin awesome that nox might open up some new finds Well done
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  15. #15

    Apr 2016
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    Quote Originally Posted by xr7ator View Post
    Cool piece of history, thanks for sharing and congratulations on a bucket lister for you guys back east. I guess it could happen out here, but i'm not going to hold my breath...
    Thx! I am definitely lucky to be in this hobby and live in SW PA. You never know what will pop out of your next hole, I thought 50/50 chance it would be a zincoln...

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtlooter View Post
    A Holy Cow moment for sure! What an awesome button find! Beautiful and crazy cool! I am totally envious of you guys that have those to find! I take it that you like that Nox. Center piece for sure. Congrats and it is Banner worthy in my book
    Thx! It took me several months to really align with the Nox, but now I love it.

    Quote Originally Posted by DocBeav View Post
    OMG! That is in BEAUTIFUL condition! Congrats and BANNER all the way!
    Thx! The other 3 buttons I found in the same 10’ area are toasty, definitely lucky that the GW was a survivor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve in PA View Post
    Looks great as is Thad. I wouldn't do anything further except find a nice case for it. I have one I can give you next time I see you. I'm amazed at all the exceptional early finds you have made considering you haven't dug a large volume of material from that period. Let's see...Nova and NJ coppers, War of 1812 cross belt plate, rattlesnake button, sword guard, and now a GWI. I probably left some things out. Regardless, this is only the second GWI that I am aware of to come out of SW PA. My only regret is that I can only vote Banner once!
    Thx Steve! I love it when a bit of history pops out of the hole. Definitely a cool feeling to have it in your hand and think about who must of lost it and how long ago. Thx for the ID and preservation advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dust Eater View Post
    Incredible detail on that bird!
    Thx! The button reads “March Fourth 1789”, but I guess he was not actually inaugurated until, 4/30/1789
    devldog, Tnmountains and A2coins like this.

 

 
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