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Thread: Vermont state seal button- is it from the Civil War?

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  1. #1
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    Vermont state seal button- is it from the Civil War?

    I was helping a friend out yesterday by digging some iron junk out of his yard that the previous owner had dumped there. He had stepped on a rusty spike earlier this year, so he wanted me to get as many of the shallow nails and other pieces of iron out that I could. Early on I found this button next to a shallow piece of junk. It has the Vermont state seal on it, and I have seen similar buttons being called Civil War buttons. I am hoping that any you folks who are knowledgeable about buttons can tell me if this button came off a uniform from the Civil War or not.

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    The thing that strikes me as odd about this button is the red paint on it.

    Any thoughts are appreciated
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    Relics: Vermont state seal button, early belt knife, shoe buckle fragments, 1789 George Washington Inaugural Button, 1916 dog license, skeleton key, early brass thimble, many flat buttons

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    Nice!!! Congrats!!!

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    Nice Relic!

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    Nice button, congrats on the save
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    Very nice button find. Only thing I can think of, is that it was buried next to something that may have had that Red color on it, and it leached onto the button ?

  6. #6
    us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digger RJ View Post
    Nice!!! Congrats!!!
    Thanks

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    Nice Relic!
    Thank You

    Quote Originally Posted by Inspector View Post
    Nice button, congrats on the save
    Thanks, Inspector

    Quote Originally Posted by Trezurehunter View Post
    Very nice button find. Only thing I can think of, is that it was buried next to something that may have had that Red color on it, and it leached onto the button ?
    Thank you, either what you said happened, or maybe the person was painting the barn in their old jacket and spilled paint on it. I'm still trying to decide if I should try to remove the paint, but I think I'll leave it on as it is part of the button's history.

    Another question to any button experts reading this, could this be a kepi button as it is very small? It is 14mm across.
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    Notable 2019 Finds so far:

    Coins: King George II halfpenny, Connecticut copper,1864 & 1908 IHP, 1921 Peace Dollar, 1908 Quarter, 1906 V Nickle, 2 1920 merc dimes, buffalo nickel

    Relics: Vermont state seal button, early belt knife, shoe buckle fragments, 1789 George Washington Inaugural Button, 1916 dog license, skeleton key, early brass thimble, many flat buttons

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    us
    Jul 2010
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    I don't have my books on hand, but that doesn't look right for a CW era button. Looks like the shank just attached to the face with no back like a normal two piece button from the period. The red paint is odd too.
    Spanish Silver Totals
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    Half Reals = 30
    1 Reals = 11
    2 Reales = 6
    8 Reales = 1
    2 Reale Cobs = 2
    Other Early Silver Coins
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    Rev War Buttons
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  8. #8
    us
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    Steve in PA,

    I see what you mean, I thought it was the front of a two piece

    and I think my 14mm measurement was off. I measured the button again and it is roughly 16mm across. I think that I measured the mangled part before.
    Last edited by VTColonialDigger; Jun 12, 2019 at 11:36 AM.
    Inspector likes this.
    Notable 2019 Finds so far:

    Coins: King George II halfpenny, Connecticut copper,1864 & 1908 IHP, 1921 Peace Dollar, 1908 Quarter, 1906 V Nickle, 2 1920 merc dimes, buffalo nickel

    Relics: Vermont state seal button, early belt knife, shoe buckle fragments, 1789 George Washington Inaugural Button, 1916 dog license, skeleton key, early brass thimble, many flat buttons

  9. #9
    us
    Jul 2010
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTColonialDigger View Post
    Steve in PA,

    I see what you mean, I thought it was the front of a two piece

    and I think my 14mm measurement was off. I measured the button again and it is roughly 16mm across. I think that I measured the mangled part before.
    I have Albert's and Tice's books at home. I'll try to remember to take a look when I get home.
    VTColonialDigger likes this.
    Spanish Silver Totals
    Cut Pieces = 19
    Half Reals = 30
    1 Reals = 11
    2 Reales = 6
    8 Reales = 1
    2 Reale Cobs = 2
    Other Early Silver Coins
    1797 & 1803 Draped Bust Dimes
    1830 Capped Bust 5 cents
    1827 Capped Bust dime
    1661 Hammered silver King Leopold
    1697 William III 6-pence
    Rev War Buttons
    3rd Battalion PA, Hartley's Regiment, USA, (4) 18th Royal Irish, (2) Rattlesnake & Stars
    Civil War Plates
    VA Militia Cross Belt, CS Tongue, CS Wreath, VMM, US Box, Model 1851 Sword, Militia Plate w/Star

  10. #10
    us
    Jul 2010
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Fisher F75, Garrett AT Gold, XP Deus, Fisher 1270
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    7343 times
    Banner Finds (3)
    Well I checked both books and the Vermont state seal was in use by 1855, but the pattern was used well after the civil war as well. Neither book shows an example with a wide rolled rim like yours. Without a back mark, it's tough to say.
    Spanish Silver Totals
    Cut Pieces = 19
    Half Reals = 30
    1 Reals = 11
    2 Reales = 6
    8 Reales = 1
    2 Reale Cobs = 2
    Other Early Silver Coins
    1797 & 1803 Draped Bust Dimes
    1830 Capped Bust 5 cents
    1827 Capped Bust dime
    1661 Hammered silver King Leopold
    1697 William III 6-pence
    Rev War Buttons
    3rd Battalion PA, Hartley's Regiment, USA, (4) 18th Royal Irish, (2) Rattlesnake & Stars
    Civil War Plates
    VA Militia Cross Belt, CS Tongue, CS Wreath, VMM, US Box, Model 1851 Sword, Militia Plate w/Star

  11. #11
    us
    Oct 2016
    Vermont
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    492
    1283 times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve in PA View Post
    Well I checked both books and the Vermont state seal was in use by 1855, but the pattern was used well after the civil war as well. Neither book shows an example with a wide rolled rim like yours. Without a back mark, it's tough to say.
    Thanks for the information! It's too bad that the 2nd piece is not there. At least I found the interesting side.
    Steve in PA likes this.
    Notable 2019 Finds so far:

    Coins: King George II halfpenny, Connecticut copper,1864 & 1908 IHP, 1921 Peace Dollar, 1908 Quarter, 1906 V Nickle, 2 1920 merc dimes, buffalo nickel

    Relics: Vermont state seal button, early belt knife, shoe buckle fragments, 1789 George Washington Inaugural Button, 1916 dog license, skeleton key, early brass thimble, many flat buttons

 

 

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