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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    Yeap, I hope no-one is suggesting it was his, that's too far fetched.
    Made for the commercial market like the cuff-links for people who supported him or his ideology (like you say a tribute to the man & his achievements).

    It's a very cool piece, & might be the only known survivor at the moment, but doesn't mean another won't turn up some day.

    CONGRATS to the OP!.
    Actually....when you start doing the research its not as far fetched as it seems... The area the buckle was found was inhabited bya number of early American politics... The Meriwether Lewis family... The Johnson Family (vice pres Richard Johnson) LaFayette was here.... The Taylors where here.... GWs personal powder flask was willed to a Lewis descendant that was less than 15 miles from the spot. The Washingtons where god parents to the Lewis children. All the families intermarried...
    We know that Pattison was a tinsmith from Berlin Conn.
    Which was frequented by Washington regularly. He was also commisioned to produce articles for Washingtons military... It may not have been a piece that belonged to GW himself...... then again.. it very well could have
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey9457 View Post
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    It is in a Museum... Dug Life Metal Detecting Museum of colonial finds in Georgetown Kentucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug Life Metal Detecting View Post
    It is in a Museum... Dug Life Metal Detecting Museum of colonial finds in Georgetown Kentucky
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    Like I said on the other post, this, in my opinion, is the best single thing dug and posted on the forums I've seen this year. Even broken, it's an amazing piece. I would dig every single signal in that area. With it being broke, it's probably from plow damage and the other piece is still there. That is unless the site has been searched by previous relic hunters, but I would still dig all I possibly could.
    Last edited by Worm-Slicer; Aug 14, 2019 at 07:37 AM.

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    Interesting find for sure. Nice save. Congrats
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    That is an epic find - congratulations!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug Life Metal Detecting View Post
    Actually....when you start doing the research its not as far fetched as it seems... The area the buckle was found was inhabited bya number of early American politics... The Meriwether Lewis family... The Johnson Family (vice pres Richard Johnson) LaFayette was here.... The Taylors where here.... GWs personal powder flask was willed to a Lewis descendant that was less than 15 miles from the spot. The Washingtons where god parents to the Lewis children. All the families intermarried...
    We know that Pattison was a tinsmith from Berlin Conn.
    Which was frequented by Washington regularly. He was also commisioned to produce articles for Washingtons military... It may not have been a piece that belonged to GW himself...... then again.. it very well could have
    Doesn't prove anything other than many more candidates. But, anyone can believe anything, that's fine.
    Keep looking for the other pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    Doesn't prove anything other than many more candidates. But, anyone can believe anything, that's fine.
    Keep looking for the other pieces.
    I never said it did prove any thing...... I said it could be a possibility. I have an idea....prove it wasnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug Life Metal Detecting View Post
    Both pics are of the same buckle.....and I truly hope your not trying to discredit my find......
    Im sure the post had 0 intentions of discrediting your find. You posted two pics of what look like two buckles because they were different in each pic. After looking it appears the second pic contains a second fragment. I too first thought it was two different buckles. Don’t be so quick to jump on people.

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    Below is a photo of a set of shoe buckles actually worn by George Washington that reside in the Mount Vernon collection:

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    These buckles are silver frames with copper accents. Below is another set of shoe buckles that were auctioned off some years ago. Their provenance was confirmed and they were probably worn around the time of his inauguration.

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    Note the extensive use of cut paste stones and the frames are silver with gold gilting.

    While George Washington was not a flashy individual, he was still a member of the upper class and would have conformed to the standard dress of the time. Shoe buckles of the upper class were quite flashy and their construction would reflect the wealth of the owner. I would actually argue that, compared to other period examples in the Victoria and Albert museum, George Washington's above buckles are fairly modest for his station. But when compared to the dug specimen, you can see the difference in terms of materials and quality. The dug specimen is base metal (brass) with no silver washing and the floral motif is relatively simple which strongly suggest a buckle worn by the working class for occasions. That does not diminish the significance of your find though. Through research I did find one other example of a shoe buckle that depicted George Washington:

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    This piece is brass with silver wash and was auctioned off by Heritage Auctions a few years back. Based on the style of the eagle they surmise that it was made around 1792 and they highlight how infrequently they see buckles like this. It's clear that shoe buckles glorifying George Washington were manufactured and worn by ordinary citizens of the US, just at a very small scale compared to buttons and cufflinks making them rare pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentium View Post
    If indeed this is a shoe buckle , there should be another one out there !
    I agree. Go find the other one or something to sport your find from the same farm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug Life Metal Detecting View Post
    Actually....when you start doing the research its not as far fetched as it seems... The area the buckle was found was inhabited bya number of early American politics... The Meriwether Lewis family... The Johnson Family (vice pres Richard Johnson) LaFayette was here.... The Taylors where here.... GWs personal powder flask was willed to a Lewis descendant that was less than 15 miles from the spot. The Washingtons where god parents to the Lewis children. All the families intermarried...
    We know that Pattison was a tinsmith from Berlin Conn.
    Which was frequented by Washington regularly. He was also commisioned to produce articles for Washingtons military... It may not have been a piece that belonged to GW himself...... then again.. it very well could have
    We also know that Washington never set foot in Kentucky.....
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