Yocum Silver?

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The Yocums settled on the James River in Stone County, Mo. in the 1830's. Ozark Folklore says the 4 Yocum Brothers made their own Silver Dollars from Silver mined by the Delaware Indians. I found this Half Dollar size of solid Silver on Yocum's land yesterday. I also found several 1830's flat Buttons I was wondering if they might have used smaller pieces of Silver for smaller coins or maybe they just used the Silver to trade with the Indians. If you have any Ideas please comment
FOUND ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WITH PERMISSION FROM THE LANDOWNER
 

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Sweet find, congrats! :occasion14:
 

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Well I can say one thing for sure, unless you’re the fat gentleman on the Legends of the Ozarks I don’t know how you got in there. The last time I checked Yocum property was off limits to metal detectorist, and anyone looking for Native American artifacts. There’s a sign right up on the road that says it plain as day
 

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The Yocum Land I looked on is privately owned.

Yeah I know. The Yocum land is also protected by the Rangers, and every agency affiliated with, and enforces the Antiquities Act, and also against people looking for Native American artifacts. My dad knew the author of the movie personally for many many years, who was also friends with the son, and father that found the Yocum silver die, and some Yocum dollars. I lived in those neck of the woods for years, and have seen many people who park across the road from the Yocum property where the signs are posted, and go out there to walk on the trails. They’re not supposed to technically be out there, but by law their definitely not allowed to have a detector or use their bare hands to remove anything from that ground. I’ve got buddies up in Pea Ridge who own land, and when I mean own land I mean it’s been in their family since the Civil War broke out, and because of the Antiquities Act, and the State law that passed to not remove any artifacts in certain areas that are part of “Cultural History” they’ll throw you in cuffs quicker than crap. I spoke to the guy myself who found them, my dad again like I said before was friends with Phillip Steele the man who interviewed the son, and father, the son being the one who had a premonition of there being something valuable nearby. I’m saying this to protect your butt, because I’ve known people to go out, and look for it. Times have changed, the days of going out on historic property once actually owned by people are few and far between. Most folks own their property, but don’t own this historical or cultural value of what’s on that land, and that’s why you have to ask the rangers. Because they do frequent that area, as well as other places in the vicinity. Plus the govt put up a hell of a fight with the father, and son who found those, and anyone with a Yocum dollar can be fined or jailed for owning counterfeit money, because the US govt still has a file open over the Yocum dollars, and look for people who post about them. If the old man was still alive, if Phillip was, and the dad was still alive they’d tell you the same thing. You’re better off deleting this post, because by law that’s like going out on a federally owned battlefield, and posting finds, and saying where you got them from, except the feds (US Mint, treasury dept, and Secret Service, and local rangers) don’t have a file of what artifacts are protected, and anytime that word comes up it throws up red flags. Trust me I worked 8 years in law enforcement, and have several good friends in the Game, and Fish, as well as Park Rangers, and family that is in law enforcement up there, and that’s not something you bring to town, and ask questions about. It’s more of a better keep your mouth shut, and don’t say a word about what you found.
 

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Very nice! :occasion14:
 

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I think it’s cool, and all I’m just giving you a warning. I’ve got a lot of buddies in that area that if the Yocum name comes up their heading for the hills waiting to do like the Rangers do, like watch folks with infrared or night vision
 

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I have no idea where you are talking about. I have been hunting this land for over 15 years. There are no Park Rangers , trails, or signs anywhere close to this Land. I have no idea what this piece of Silver is but it could have possibly been made by the Yocums. it is a blank piece of Silver and not a counterfeit Coin. If is against the Law I guess everyone needs to stop looking for Civil War Relics and Indian Relics on Private Land
 

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I have no idea where you are talking about. I have been hunting this land for over 15 years. There are no Park Rangers or trails or signs are anywhere close to this Land. I have no idea what this piece of Silver is but it could have possibly been made by the Yocums. If it is against the Law I guess everyone needs to stop looking for Civil War Relics and Indian Relics on Private Land

I’m talking about the actual Yocum property, and where the Yocum dollars where found. Where Phillip Steele, and the guys did the interview about finding the die for the dollars, and then an actual dollar. If you go down the road right smack dab in the corner of the hwy there’s an area to pull over to read the historical marker, and across the street is the Yocum land, that has the signs that say that. You may be hunting somewhere where they were reported to be, but I know for a fact the Yocum’s lived on this land I’m talking about because I’ve seen the deed from when they owned it. If you’re on private land, and there isn’t any signs in the area you’re looking in then go right ahead, I just know that on the actual Yocum property, and all up, and down the area we hunt civil war relics, that the folks own the land, but the park rangers, game and fish, and deputies will sit , and watch you. I’m saying be careful about saying Yocum dollar, even on here, this coming from years of law enforcement experience, this is something the government is still adamant about finding because they’re made they couldn’t get their cut from the original dollars because they couldn’t tax it. The die the son had in the movie Phillip Steele made where he interview the dad, and son, the die is a reproduction, and so is the flat silver looking dollar, because the feds confiscated the originals. The one the guy held in his hand was a wooden prop. I know because I’ve seen it, and he told me that they weren’t allowed to make one out of metal because the government told them if they replicated it where they could make more of the original dollars then they could look at jail time. Personally I think it’s all stupid, it’s no different than counterfeit other coins we find, I’ve found two counterfeit Morgan dollars, and it’s awkward how they make a huge deal out of the Yocum ordeal. I guess it was because of how the Yocum’s went about circulating them into the area, when the economy was down, and their coins were of higher quality silver than the actual American silver dollars, and coins. I’m actually happy you found it, I just know after almost 30 years of detecting in that area that for some reason they protect that land where the signs are at, like it’s freaking Fort Knox. I assume it’s because they’re worried someone might find another Yocum dollar, or the hoard of dollars that were hidden by the Yocum’s when the govt came to confiscate all of them.
 

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Can you tell me where this Yocum Property is? I have heard a lot of the Property is under Table Rock Lake. There is no Park Land of protected area anywhere near where I found this piece.
 

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It isn't a Yocum Dollar. It is blank on both sides and about the size of a Half Dollar. I am just saying it was possibly owned by Yocums since a Yocum owned the Land.
 

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Can you tell me where this Yocum Property is? I have heard a lot of the Property is under Table Rock Lake. There is no Park Land of protected area anywhere near where I found this piece.

I’m trying to find it on the map. Dads got it on his map in the safe, so if I can’t find it on google, I’ll have to go to their house to look for it. I know it’s on one side of Table Rock Lake. He had property where there was a creek located at, that was later named after him, the Chickasaw Indians were there before him, and were still there when he got the piece of property. Hence why the property is protected. There’s been a boat load of folks that’s gone all over that property throughout the years, and there was even mines out there at one time, but none of them had any silver in them. I do know that his house was supposed to be over the top of it. That’s one of the biggest things I read about a long time ago before I sent that link. It’s been heavily looked over for years by owners of it, then the owners started noticed looting, and evidence of vandalism. The university came out there, and found evidence of Indians, as well as apparently “cultural” artifacts, from Indians, possibly Spanish, and then apparently they thought they found a spot where Yocum’s home was at
 

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It isn't a Yocum Dollar. It is blank on both sides and about the size of a Half Dollar. I am just saying it was possibly owned by Yocums since a Yocum owned the Land.

Which Yocum was it? Was it anywhere near Stone County or the White River.
 

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That would be a cool find if it was one of thiers. Be careful !!!!!!
 

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