Rose-Gold Plated Irish Button & ’05 King Edward VII Quarter

[ANTIQUARIAN]

On Saturday I went back for an hour to the site where I’ve been finding the aluminum tags and found two more before my coil died. On Sunday I arrived at the site at 5:30am and detected the ‘Hastings’ field for almost 3hrs. I then headed next door and detected a field at the very back of the ‘Brignal’ property next door for another hour. Both are circled in green on the c1870 map. The ‘Hastings’ site has produced well for me since I first detected it in 2015, so I wasn’t surprised too when I found the flat one-piece ‘Irish’ button.

What I was surprised at was the rose-gold colored plating and the Latin inscription ‘Quis Separabit’. Which translates to ‘Who Separate’.

“Quis separabit is a Latin motto derived from the Vulgate translation of Romans 8:35: "Quis ergō nōs sēparābit ā cāritāte Christī..." translated as "Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? The motto is associated with Ulster unionism, Ulster loyalism and the British Army in Ireland: for example, it is used in the British Army by the Royal Dragoon Guards, the Royal Ulster Rifles, the London Irish Rifles, the Irish Guards, and the North Irish Horse, and it is also the motto of the Order of Saint Patrick. The phrase also appears on the Seal of South Carolina and inscribed on the alumnus ring of Clemson University.” - Wikipedia

The button is in beautiful condition and was made by Jones & Son, unfortunately the writing beneath this is illegible. Along with the fancy button, I found a 1905 Canadian Quarter, a ‘Shield Buckle’ and a small decorative stamped-brass buckle. I also found what I feel may be a very worn, right facing King George III Halfpenny (1770-1775). If anyone can tell me anything about the maker or the significance of the history behind this button, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks very much for looking,
Dave

 

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[lenmac65]

Interesting post and some great finds. Congrats!

 

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[ANTIQUARIAN]

Nice finds Dave! That button is spectacular.

Thanks very much Steve!
Dave

Congrats. That is a good day of hunting.

Thanks for your post JD, I appreciate it.
Dave

Is this relevant to your button, Dave?
https://books.google.com/books?id=NscrAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA73&lpg=PA73&dq=Quis+separabit+one+piece+shamrock+button&source=bl&ots=UGWEKenYz-&sig=ACfU3U04H91XBYPO6ix-7b23rBKvyxflfQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiFpd2hgOPpAhW7hHIEHXBwBPsQ6AEwAHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=Quis%20separabit%20one%20piece%20shamrock%20button&f=false

Thanks very much for the information creskol, I'll have to research this an let you know.

Nice hunt Dave, really like that buckle, other stuff is cool to!!!

Thank you Bob.
I assume you're talking about the 'Shield Buckle', I never get tired of digging these decorative buckles.
Dave

Very good hunting, Antiquarian! You find some interesting stuff in the fields. I really like the quarter.

Thanks for your post Missy.
I love being in the fields, mainly because it's so peaceful and it's just me and nature.
Dave

Nice finds Dave.

Part of the button backmark reads “DUBLIN”, so I would be pretty sure that this relates to the Jones family, recorded as button makers at 2 Cork Hill, Dublin and active between at least 1815 and 1832.

Some marks for this company only refer to ‘W Jones’ (for William), but it’s clear that he was at some time in partnership with Edward Jones, although it isn’t clear whether they were father and son. However there is a newspaper record from 3rd January 1822 announcing the dissolution of their partnership as of 1st January 1822 with William becoming sole proprietor. Retirement of Edward as the father perhaps?

You can probably see better on the button than I can in the picture, but the backmark looks like it might be Edward, written in this abbreviated form: View attachment 1838405

If so, I would assume it’s then from sometime between 1815 and 1822 before William took over the business. Some of the company’s early advertisements for civilian buttons proudly declare themselves as “The King’s Button Makers” but I don’t think your button is military or militia. Just a bit of patriotism I would think.

I can't thank you enough for the information you've offer here Red-Coat!
This website is most fortunate to have you as a contributing member.

Best of luck to you Sir,
Dave

Very Nice!!! Congrats!!!

Thanks very much Randy!

Great looking button

Thanks buddy.

Interesting post and some great finds. Congrats!

Thanks very much Len, I appreciate you posting.
Dave

 

[Calabash Digger]

Nice!

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

Excellent finds !

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Nice!

Thanks!

Excellent finds !

Thank you for your post ETO!

 

[Toecutter]

Now thats a good day, well done sir!!

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Now thats a good day, well done sir!!

Thanks for your post Toe, I appreciate your support!
Dave