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    That looks like a really excellent bottle! Congrats on it and keep it in a safe place!!!
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    Beautiful old bottle, congrats!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcopperstax View Post
    That looks like a really excellent bottle! Congrats on it and keep it in a safe place!!!
    Yes a safe place I keep it where I can see it .Because I am still no sure it happened .I had only been digging about 10 minutes that day when I found it .With it dirty I was not sure what I had .But when I looked at it just a minute my brain was screaming that is old .I looked at the bottom and thought that is an open pontil.I had never seen one in person but I knew it had to be even with the dirt .I cleared a place to put it down climbed out of the spot I was in and got my camera. I wanted to get a picture before is disappeared I have spent the last 3 days trying to get a good picture of it but I can not gt any that really show the panels in detail .But it just looks old in a way that any other bottle I ever found before looks Thanks to all and your kind words
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    That is a pretty old bottle.Before I took up metal detecting in the late 60's I used to did at old farm dumps for bottles.
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    Nice flask . Yes it is open pontiled and dates to the 1850ís . I donít now about rarity or value. In general aqua is the most common color glass for this type of historical flask. Condition of yours shows much ground or water action. Many flasks like yours while very neat finds do not carry a lot of monetary value especially in less than mint condition. Wherever you found it hopefully will have more to find . The age of your bottle is a great sign . When I used to dig privies flasks similar to yours were not uncommon finds . Keep looking.
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    GHF, very nice find! Does the frosting on the bottle have sweeping lines with slight rainbow covering on it, or is it just even frosting all over the bottle. If it is sweeping lines with rainbow hints in it, then it is mineralization deposited over the years from being in the dirt. That might make it a little more valuable to collectors (I wouldn't even consider selling if it was mine). Hard to tell what kind of frosting from the pictures. Congratulations!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thrifty76now View Post
    That is a pretty old bottle.Before I took up metal detecting in the late 60's I used to did at old farm dumps for bottles.
    thrifty This is not a family farm dump site .I have at times had good luck digging those sites over the years .This 10 X 10 and at least 4 feet deep.Thanks for looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspipe View Post
    Nice flask . Yes it is open pontiled and dates to the 1850’s . I don’t now about rarity or value. In general aqua is the most common color glass for this type of historical flask. Condition of yours shows much ground or water action. Many flasks like yours while very neat finds do not carry a lot of monetary value especially in less than mint condition. Wherever you found it hopefully will have more to find . The age of your bottle is a great sign . When I used to dig privies flasks similar to yours were not uncommon finds . Keep looking.
    The value is it is my first bottle I ever found from this time period .I am just getting to be down 4 feet.It is the first bottle I found at the depth at this site.With the amount of area I need to uncover it seems unlikely that this will be the only bottle that is from the same era ..Plan to go digging this morning Thanks for looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArfieBoy View Post
    GHF, very nice find! Does the frosting on the bottle have sweeping lines with slight rainbow covering on it, or is it just even frosting all over the bottle. If it is sweeping lines with rainbow hints in it, then it is mineralization deposited over the years from being in the dirt. That might make it a little more valuable to collectors (I wouldn't even consider selling if it was mine). Hard to tell what kind of frosting from the pictures. Congratulations!
    It is not clear glass that you look through More like if you made a mug wet and put it in the freezer. They say everything has a price . For me if some one offered crazy money you would not say no never .Than the question is what is crazy money .My favorite dead president come in a denomination that is a nice round number .if enough of them where exchanged in the deal .I would not rule it out before some consideration. But that is certainly not my intent

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArfieBoy View Post
    GHF, very nice find! Does the frosting on the bottle have sweeping lines with slight rainbow covering on it, or is it just even frosting all over the bottle. If it is sweeping lines with rainbow hints in it, then it is mineralization deposited over the years from being in the dirt. That might make it a little more valuable to collectors (I wouldn't even consider selling if it was mine). Hard to tell what kind of frosting from the pictures. Congratulations!
    Almost always, the "staining", as it is more commonly referred to, is the result of water in the soil slowly leaching the soda and potash out of the glass, leaving a silica skeleton of sorts behind (the visible cloudiness, iridescence or flaking). I've never seen mineral deposits on early glass (not saying that they don't exist), and I've seen barnacles, which can look cool as hell, but neither add value to the glass. A sparkling attic mint bottle will always demand a premium over other examples. Your flask is a great find and a great bottle, but not worth a heap of money. With any bottle, it's Color, Crudity, Character, Condition, and the wild card Rarity, which may or may not inflate the value. Put all those together and you usually have $$$. Always exceptions in bottles though, like the Indian queens and National Bitters (ear of corn). They come in so many colors, but the ones that seem to bring the most is oddly enough, aqua. Go figure...

    Once again though and with all said, great find. It would be priceless to me if I found it.

    Also, depending on how much etching, wear or scratching is present, if any, it may be a candidate for professional cleaning which may up the value.
    Last edited by sandchip; Jun 30, 2020 at 05:26 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandchip View Post
    Almost always, the "staining", as it is more commonly referred to, is the result of water in the soil slowly leaching the soda and potash out of the glass, leaving a silica skeleton of sorts behind (the visible cloudiness, iridescence or flaking). I've never seen mineral deposits on early glass (not saying that they don't exist), and I've seen barnacles, which can look cool as hell, but neither add value to the glass. A sparkling attic mint bottle will always demand a premium over other examples. Your flask is a great find and a great bottle, but not worth a heap of money. With any bottle, it's Color, Crudity, Character, Condition, and the wild card Rarity, which may or may not inflate the value. Put all those together and you usually have $$$. Always exceptions in bottles though, like the Indian queens and National Bitters (ear of corn). They come in so many colors, but the ones that seem to bring the most is oddly enough, aqua. Go figure...

    Once again though and with all said, great find. It would be priceless to me if I found it.

    Also, depending on how much etching, wear or scratching is present, if any, it may be a candidate for professional cleaning which may up the value.
    Thanks for looking sandchip. Through my novice eyes I see Crudity,Character and maybe condition .Again I don't know enough to have an educated guess This is why I said it was screaming old when I first looked at it .It just looked old and crude . I am in the category with those that don.t' know what they don't know Up to this find my whole collection of bottles might be just a couple hundred dollars This is a more valuable find because t is the oldest bottle I ever found not because how much is it worth .AGAIN THANKS SANDCHIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by glass half fool View Post
    Thanks for looking sandchip. Through my novice eyes I see Crudity,Character and maybe condition .Again I don't know enough to have an educated guess This is why I said it was screaming old when I first looked at it .It just looked old and crude . I am in the category with those that don.t' know what they don't know Up to this find my whole collection of bottles might be just a couple hundred dollars This is a more valuable find because t is the oldest bottle I ever found not because how much is it worth .AGAIN THANKS SANDCHIP
    As is, I would guess around $200.00. Cleaned by the right person, maybe a little more, but the cleaning costs, too. Here are links to a few that have sold in the past. Pay particular attention to the description of each, relative to the price realized. The OP olive example would've brought many times more if perfect. I'll continue to keep any eye out for the sold price for an OP aqua example like yours.

    Thanks to NCH.

    https://www.hecklerauction.com/aucti...8/view/?lot=28

    https://www.hecklerauction.com/aucti...0/view/?lot=42

    https://www.hecklerauction.com/aucti...7/view/?lot=49
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    sandchip Some additional great info that you included Thanks .It sure would be nice to find one of the other colors.Thanks for your insight

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    First of all, my apologies. Your flask is a GXIII-9, not an 8. I should've caught that the 8 doesn't have the "Balto, MD" embossing. It is listed as scarce, opposed to comparatively scarce on the 8 in McKearin-Wilson's charts. Aqua is the only listed color. Hope this helps.

    https://www.hecklerauction.com/aucti.../view/?lot=217

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    OK but only you would know that out of the 2 of us .Again you and several others have been the foundation of all info that is out there and where to find it Last week at this time I did not know such a flask existed You mention cleaning in one of your post .I have been looking at this flask a lot over that time. And it is a noticeable white of grayish coating on the inside of the bottle Would it hurt it to just put in some distilled water or a white vinegar and let it soak And than do a little light brushing .Being it was down so deep I don't know how much it would have been exposed to water or wet soils Beyond the inside staining I do not see any chips ,marks or cracks It appears to me that this is not a throw backClick image for larger version. 

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