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    Silver spoon, Barbers, SLQ and 1700s pocket spill (?)

    Spent some time from Saturday to today checking out public use areas close to some of the old villages here in Western Mass, it's getting so our local favorite spots are pretty dried up and we've been looking a little further out. Luckily there's a lot of woods and history here.


    Went out with SecondStar, ACOJoe, and Pittscop631 Saturday where I had great luck last month with 2 reales and several old coppers. Mike found a beauty King George (see his post) and I managed two random Barber dimes in a big flat spot near the stream:


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    Yesterday I went a little further south and found a nice wooded park behind the main street, right off the bat found a SLQ, followed by a sterling spoon (with Indian Head hallmark), then nothing decent for over an hour, until I was "headed back to the car" (which is sometimes the ticket if you say it out loud) and dug a no date large, looks like a Draped (?):


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    Today I headed back but stayed a little north of the village. There's a lake close by and I figured the woods, which are also open to the public, might be a good place to start. About three hours later I had only found two large flat buttons. I decided to "head back to the car," lo and behold found three coppers in a two-foot radius, not sure if it's a pocket spill or a coincidence just because the big difference in the dates:


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    The crusty one looks like it might be a CT, I'll try to get some of that off but I can already tell the corrosion is pretty deeply set in. Here are the buttons and two locks I found:


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    Thanks for looking and HH,
    Steve
    seek and ye shall find sayeth the Lord

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    Nice, those KG's are in awesome shape!!
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    Top shelf finds there! Congrats
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    Good selection and nice silver spoon.

    The Indian head hallmark is that of Wilcox & Evertsen, formed in 1892 (originally Rowan & Wilcox, established 1889). In 1896 they were bought by the Meriden Britannia Company and moved from New York, NY to Meriden, CT. Then two years later Meriden became part of the International Silver Company (ISC), with flatware production moving to Wallingford, CT. It wasn’t unusual for companies that were part of ISC to continue using their own marks to preserve their identity and that’s the case here, since the spoon is Wilcox & Evertsen’s ‘Marcell’ pattern, dating from 1907.
    Last edited by Red-Coat; Jul 29, 2020 at 03:48 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Man ..you killed it out there ! That's treasure hunting
    Silver spoons are very special finds !!
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    Ill bet the coppers are a spill. Those things just stayed in circulation. I don't think it would be unusual for a very wide range of dates to be in the same "pocket."
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    Excellent digs. Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red-Coat View Post
    Good selection and nice silver spoon.

    The Indian head hallmark is that of Wilcox & Evertsen, formed in 1892 (originally Rowan & Wilcox, established 1889). In 1896 they were bought by the Meriden Britannia Company and moved from New York, NY to Meriden, CT. Then two years later Meriden became part of the International Silver Company (ISC), with flatware production moving to Wallingford, CT. It wasn’t unusual for companies that were part of ISC to continue using their own marks to preserve their identity and that’s the case here, since the spoon is Wilcox & Evertsen’s ‘Marcell’ pattern, dating from 1907.
    Thanks for that information Red Coat, very cool. I knew about Meridian and was trying to find the pattern but you nailed it with the W&E style
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    Those are some awesome finds!! The crusty coin in the spill looks like a King William halfpenny. You just can't beat silver, relics and old coppers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTColonialDigger View Post
    Those are some awesome finds!! The crusty coin in the spill looks like a King William halfpenny. You just can't beat silver, relics and old coppers!
    Hey VT, thanks for the info! I thought I was looking at an Etlib but see now it wouldn't be next to the bust. Wasn't looking too closely, hope to do some picking tonight and get some detail!
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    Wow Steve...some great finds! Those old coppers are in amazing shape! "Woods and history" would make a great bumper sticker....words to live by....
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    What a couple of great hunts! Love the Barbers, and those coppers are in great shape. I am starting to think I live in the wrong part of Massachusetts. Happy Hunting.
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    That patch of woods seems to be quite productive
    I think your first no date largie is a Liberty Cap
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    Quote Originally Posted by lenmac65 View Post
    What a couple of great hunts! Love the Barbers, and those coppers are in great shape. I am starting to think I live in the wrong part of Massachusetts. Happy Hunting.
    Plenty of room over here when you're ready!
    seek and ye shall find sayeth the Lord

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve in PA View Post
    That patch of woods seems to be quite productive
    I think your first no date largie is a Liberty Cap
    Hey Steve, thought the same thing at first, it does look like the cap from certain angles
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