Dallah Coffe Pot, Help Please , ? What language, ? Old ,

[Joecoins]

Got this today at the thrift store
Can anybody identify the Language and possibly translate?please?
Is this a Turkish coffepot? Dallah?
How old Could this be.
It is dented on bottom.
It has some small punctures aswell.
is it something to preserve?
Could cleaning it a little with soap be alright.? Its especialy dirty on top.

Thanks everyone

 

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[Joecoins]

I am still just appreciating the coolness of this thing. Evey inch in carved.
The carvings are so intricate.
I see so many minor images in the carvings.
Its soo trippy feels like treasure in my hand.
Stuff ass cool as this brings a tear to my eye.

 

[Joecoins]

The spout is short...

 

[Joecoins]

The finial on the very top. The part that you could grab to open it. It spins.

 

[Joecoins]

233 grams, 5& 1/2 inches tall, 3 inches wide
Or 14 cm tall, 8 cm wide

Some stuff im researching concerning this Dallah
Beduins, Mamluks, Cairoware , original cairoware?

This dallah is tiny. Thinking about it , it would be convenient for a trader. Traveling long distances. The size is less weight. Less water needed also. And less fuel to boil the water.

 

[Joecoins]

No part of it is magnetic.
It may have been silver coated at one point in history.
The dulu. Or caligraphy is typical of Malmuk style...13c-16c. Dallahs are quite important in some countires..

Aparently drinking coffe involved ritual.. Could i call this a Relic?

 

[DizzyDigger]

Joe, that style of pot (along with cups) have been sold
as a novelty/tourist item throughout the Middle East for
decades.

 

[Joecoins]

For centuries probably

 

[Joecoins]

But the age really shows on this one..
And the detail and style of the decoration.

 

[Joecoins]

Perhaps a translation could help with daiting it.
Im asking around. If anybody could help would be awesome. I will try for better photos

 

[Joecoins]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191790641398

This guy had 56 bids
And he dated his to 1900-1940...

 

[Joecoins]

A search of completed sold listing on ebay astounds me, sort highest priced first, some have sold for alot..
Aparently these are quite collectable in some countires.

 

[Joecoins]

When i saw it I apreaciated the detailed carving. I thought it might be worth a hundred. But i also though it could reallly old. Now i realy need to find out. Because aparently these things can be worth alot...

 

[Joecoins]

Mamluk period artifacts are collected in their own right. And so are Dallahs. mamluks were known for their metal work. I think i got a great combo.

 

[UnderMiner]

Problem with dating something like this is the ones that were made in the 1940's look nearly identical to the ones from the 16th century. Heck, even ones made today look the same albeit with no patina yet. I think only an expert can accurately say what year it's from and its genuine value. Apparently many of the original works, especially the Mamluks stuff, was melted down and recycled over the last 100 years after being in use by families for centuries. Something about disposing of the past to make room for the future, but now the originals that have survived are once again appreciated and command high prices as a result. I also read that during the years of the British Empire many westerners bought up the ancient stuff for dirt cheap and brought it home, so the West has perhaps a vast unknown reserve of the good old stuff.

 

[Joecoins]

Thanks under miner. I would realy like to get this one to an expert. It would be realy cool to know for certain. However old it is and if its original Mamluk art. The minute details. And almost imposible twists in some of this carving is so cool on its own. Certain real old patterns are present like complete spirals in the background.

 

[Joecoins]

The main types of arabic script.
If the script used on my dallah is muhaqqaq then it would further support mamluk period.

 

[CRUSADER]

Thanks under miner. I would realy like to get this one to an expert. It would be realy cool to know for certain. However old it is and if its original Mamluk art. The minute details. And almost imposible twists in some of this carving is so cool on its own. Certain real old patterns are present like complete spirals in the background.

Generally speaking the earlier they are the crisper & more refined are the details. Yours took effort but it lacks the sparkle of quality.

 

[GeoW]

Find you a Bedouin and have him translate.

 

[Joecoins]

Find you a Bedouin and have him translate.

Yes. In egypt...