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    Brooch Field & Copse Field - Roman Billion & Mystery Roman Silver...

    After getting 20 Roman bronze in 1 hr off the Roman Wood Site on Saturday we were keen to see if the other Roman Sites nearby produced as well. We were somewhat stunned as we covered these sites this year after a deep plough & although they turned the beans in no more than 6 inches (we think) it seems to have brought up more than the deeper plough.
    We started on Brooch Field & ended up with 29 bronzes (& 2 Silver) in 3.5 hrs, but we did a quick hour on the Copse Field & got 12 bronze coins.
    In this heat 4.5 hours was plenty, but we now know that all the sites in this area (4 plus 2 small annexes) need re-doing as they all had the same treatment. Also as luck would have it, they have further disced down all the fields just before we arrived.

    41 Roman Bronze Coins - 1 nice one of Allectus
    Bit of a Roman Spoon
    Roman Hob-Nail
    2 Fibula Catchplates
    Roman Pin-Head
    Roman Pot Shard with partial Potter Mark
    Rose Farthing
    1922 Florin (big coin to have missed)
    Billion (debased silver) of Gallienus
    A Mystery Roman Silver that we need the British Museums help on, its not in any of our books, & from what we can tell it might be a Mule of the Obverse of Domitian, & the reverse of Vespasian.
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    Looks like good quality silver. Interested what the BM has to say. And again stunning amount of coinss there!
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    Nice going as always! Good luck with the mystery silver ID..
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    I love your Roman finds!
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    Which one is the mystery silver?
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    Very nice hunt, congrats!

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    All of you finds are outstanding, especially the Roman ones.

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    Hi Cru , What are the odds of TWO Different MULE coins being found in world in a couple of days . One Roman one found based on your opinion and the recent auction of the 2000 Australian Dollar for $4000 which was reported on Google in the last few days.
    A Rare coin a week for 14 years Amazing TP

    How can a hammered coin have a strike mistake on the mill edge that does not exist ? Might be not at all
    Last edited by tinpan; Sep 14, 2020 at 07:48 PM.

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    Thanks for the PM Jamie D.

    Jamie thinks the Obverse is Vespasian which would make more sense. It looked like the V was a D & its not the usual ugly mug of Vespasians bust. (this will be confirmed later if true)
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
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    Checked my email from the BM, it's confirmed Jamie D's keen eye:

    ''It’s a little tricky to work out from the photos alone, but I think this is probably the early Vespasian type before he gets a bit more thick set and jowly! I think the first letter after CAESAR in the obverse legend is probably a V rather than a D, and it looks like an S before IANVS from the images at least – the size and spacing of the lettering would fit better with Vespasian. It would be a less common obverse legend for the first issue of Domitian if it read IMP CAESAR DOMITIANVS AVG too and the Vespasian type is much more regularly seen.

    I think it is as follows:

    A silver Roman denarius of Vespasian (AD 69-79), probably dating to the period c.AD 69 (Reece period 4)
    Obverse: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG, Laureate head right
    Reverse: COS ITER TR POT, Pax seated left holding branch and caduceus(?)
    Mint of Rome
    Cf. RIC I (2nd ed.), p. 60, no. 29''
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    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermont treasure hunter View Post
    Which one is the mystery silver?
    Sorry missed this question. Its the bottom left on the blue background, but its been IDed now by the British Museum.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coinstar magnet View Post
    Always a joy to see your finds...when are you going to open a museum?
    When I'm given enough room to house & display it.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

 

 

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