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    WW2 Silver Swastika badge

    Hi guys , the field I'm currently detecting had a WW2 search light on it, I found this today.... it's hallmarked and I think had blue enamel.

    Can anyone I.D the hallmarks?

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    frontal design to hold enamel inlay and clasp device looks more 1910-ish period to me. Worn as a symbol of luck. You need to clean up the hall marks better for a proper ID, but it's not WW2

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    Can you recommend how to clean the hallmarks up?
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    Cleaned up hallmarksClick image for larger version. 

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    Nice save. This piece brought you luck it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devldog View Post
    Nice save. This piece brought you luck it seems.
    It did after that I found this silver RomanClick image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by jewelerguy View Post
    frontal design to hold enamel inlay and clasp device looks more 1910-ish period to me. Worn as a symbol of luck. You need to clean up the hall marks better for a proper ID, but it's not WW2
    Birmingham 1911 thanks for info, it put me on the right track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_rowlands View Post
    It did after that I found this silver RomanClick image for larger version. 

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    wow that Roman is amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_rowlands View Post
    Birmingham 1911 thanks for info, it put me on the right track.
    Indeedy, yes. The maker is Adie & Lovekin Ltd of Frederick Street, Birmingham, England.

    Although they were registered in 1879 (so the lower case ‘m', the style of which isn’t very clear in your picture, could theoretically be for 1886 rather than 1911) the anchor is upright, which means the later date. Also A&L used a variety of marks, but that particular one was only in use between 1894-1927:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red-Coat View Post
    Indeedy, yes. The maker is Adie & Lovekin Ltd of Frederick Street, Birmingham, England.

    Although they were registered in 1879 (so the lower case ‘m', the style of which isn’t very clear in your picture, could theoretically be for 1886 rather than 1911) the anchor is upright, which means the later date. Also A&L used a variety of marks, but that particular one was only in use between 1894-1927:

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    This is why I love this forum, you come with piece's and leave with a picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_rowlands View Post
    It did after that I found this silver RomanClick image for larger version. 

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    RIC Civil war
    That is a RARE coin in amazing condition! (has some good value)
    RIC 4 Civil war denarius, Spain, April-June 68. BON EVENT Female head right, wearing fillet in hair / PACI PR Clasping hands, holding caduceus. BMC 4. RIC 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    RIC Civil war
    That is a RARE coin in amazing condition! (has some good value)
    RIC 4 Civil war denarius, Spain, April-June 68. BON EVENT Female head right, wearing fillet in hair / PACI PR Clasping hands, holding caduceus. BMC 4. RIC 4.
    Hi Crusader, it's almost like it was dropped yesterday. Do you have a date for this? I couldn't find the coin on line , I clicked your link and read the description but am I missing the date?

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    I voted BANNER.

    This is what Cru'dad states after checking RIC (book):

    ''Civil war denarius, Spain, April-June 68. BON EVENT Female head right, wearing fillet in hair / PACI PR Clasping hands, holding caduceus. BMC 4. RIC 4.
    https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/Civil_Wars/t.html


    In RIC Vol I 1984 edition this RIC 4 designated coin was classed R4 which meant up to 5 coins were known at that date.''
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    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
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    Hard to value, as I can't find any for sale or any that sold.
    I would not be surprised if its in the £500-£1000 bracket. (Most denarius not worth more than £30)
    If sold in the US, I suspect it would command at least $1200.
    Last edited by CRUSADER; Sep 20, 2020 at 01:45 PM.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    Hard to value, as I can't find any for sale or any that sold.
    I would not be surprised if its in the £500-£1000 bracket. (Most denarius not worth more than £30)
    So only 5 are known to exist? No way!! TBH I'm not interested in the money, the find is part of the journey. You have made my year
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