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    Big Rosette, Two 1812 Halfpenny’s, 1807 KGIII Penny and other Relics


    It took me almost 2 years to find this site in the field where I found the Halfpenny’s, the rosette and the KGIII. I originally found this site identified in an 1870 county atlas in 2018. Unfortunately, I had a very short window each year to search for it, as this farmer keeps his fields in tight crop rotations. One week ago, the beans came off this field, the farmer has disked and is planting winter wheat later this week. I was fortunate that he gave me the go-ahead to look for the site on Sunday and Monday.

    I arrived at the field at 6:30 am on Sunday and didn't find the site until 11:30 am, I then only had 2hrs left to detect it. I first found the 1807 KGIII followed by a very large horse rosette, then an 1812 LC Halfpenny. Luckily, I had a few hours to head back on Monday and found another 1812 LC Halfpenny. I now have to wait until next June before I can detect it again.

    I’ve also included finds from two other sites that I detected last week.

    Lower Canada Halfpenny Token - 1812
    Features King George III and Lady Justice with her scales making a statement about the War of 1812 between America and the British Empire, including Canada. These tokens were struck by private mints to help fill the need for currency which was sorely lacking at the time. These tokens are quite common and are worth small amounts unless in excellent condition. Just about all of these tokens that I’ve found are very thin and are heavily worn.


    Thanks very much for looking,
    Dave
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    Antiquarian - a person who collects and studies antiquities or relics of the past.

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    Very Nice!!! Congrats!!!
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    Very fine hunt and great restoration on several of the items as usual. I really like that large rosette.
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    Well done Dave, it all adds up to being a satisfying display of good stuff. Congrats on the finds=and getting to the site finally. (Should of just asked me)
    You might find this interesting info on the plate.
    Gar's eight brothers (Harvey D., Winfield C., Logan T., George B., Edward J., Philip S., Louis E., and Clinton W. Wood) were all involved in the business with Philip (b.1893-d.1972) controlling the manufacture and distribution of Wood hoists and bodies in Canada through Phil Wood Industries, which was headquartered at 857 Tecumseh Blvd., Windsor, Ontario, Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffInMass View Post
    That's a whole lot of excellent finds- Congrats!
    Thanks for your post Jeff, hope you're having a good year.
    Dave



    Quote Originally Posted by Digger RJ View Post

    Very Nice!!! Congrats!!!
    Thank you Randy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Erik in NJ View Post
    Very fine hunt and great restoration on several of the items as usual. I really like that large rosette.
    Thanks Eric, I try to not 'over restore' my finds, it's more just to preserve them.
    Dave


    Quote Originally Posted by pepperj View Post
    Well done Dave, it all adds up to being a satisfying display of good stuff. Congrats on the finds=and getting to the site finally. (Should of just asked me)
    You might find this interesting info on the plate.
    Gar's eight brothers (Harvey D., Winfield C., Logan T., George B., Edward J., Philip S., Louis E., and Clinton W. Wood) were all involved in the business with Philip (b.1893-d.1972) controlling the manufacture and distribution of Wood hoists and bodies in Canada through Phil Wood Industries, which was headquartered at 857 Tecumseh Blvd., Windsor, Ontario, Canada.
    http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/g/gar_wood/gar_wood.htm
    Thanks for the info on Phil Wood Industries Jim.
    This piece had been folded a few times when I found it, I noticed there was writing on it so I carefully straightened it out in the field.
    Unfortunately it's very thin, the blackening on the face indicates to me that it was possibly in a fire.

    The site I found it on was dug by the arkies 30 years ago. There were lots of square nails here, so possibly a barn site.
    I'll have to wait for the farmer to disk it in the spring, as it's currently in straw stubble and wheat-grass.

    See the Google Map pic below.
    Dave

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    Well done !
    Another example of how research and some hard work can result in some great finds !

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    Very nice! Good research and good timing! You'll know exactly where to go next time that window of opportunity opens up.

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    Those are some very nice finds, congratulations! Most of the farmers I know trust me enough to give the permission to go on the field even after they were seeded,sometimes even long after there is a first growth. That period is the best to detect as the fields are flattened and the detector is at its best. I've been doing it for years and I'm certain that I have never done even a minor damage to the crops,just need to be careful and cover any holes. That would give you much more time and maximise the potential of your metal detector. Good luck in the fall season!
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    That Phil Wood's Dump Body tag is way cool! Love it! very nice batch of goodies, Dave!
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    Quote Originally Posted by E-Trac-Ohio View Post
    Well done !
    Another example of how research and some hard work can result in some great finds !

    Good Hunting !
    Thank you E-Trac!
    Research is definitely the key to making finds, especially when you're looking for a needle in a haystack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff H View Post
    Very nice! Good research and good timing! You'll know exactly where to go next time that window of opportunity opens up.
    Thanks for your post Jeff, you're absolutely right, finding the site is half the fun.
    Dave


    Quote Originally Posted by Aureus View Post
    Those are some very nice finds, congratulations! Most of the farmers I know trust me enough to give the permission to go on the field even after they were seeded,sometimes even long after there is a first growth. That period is the best to detect as the fields are flattened and the detector is at its best. I've been doing it for years and I'm certain that I have never done even a minor damage to the crops,just need to be careful and cover any holes. That would give you much more time and maximise the potential of your metal detector. Good luck in the fall season!
    Hello Anton, I appreciate your advice and support buddy!
    It's always been one of my personal rules not to detect after the field's been planted. The farmers in my area have been very generous with their permissions to detect their fields and there's more then enough sites for me to investigate until the crops are harvested. I'm just waiting for two large sites to be disked for next years planting now that the wheat grass has been sprayed. These sites produced well after the winter wheat came off, but I just know there's more to be found.
    Hope you're having a great year,
    Dave



    Quote Originally Posted by creskol View Post
    That Phil Wood's Dump Body tag is way cool! Love it! very nice batch of goodies, Dave!
    Thanks for you post creskol, it's been a while since we last spoke my friend.
    I did a bit of research on Phil Wood Industries from Windsor, ON as well. I used to cover Windsor as part of my sales territory, so I was interested to see exactly what type of products this company made. Being located so close to Detroit, i assume they made truck bodies then supplied them to either General Motors, which was founded in 1908 or Chrysler Corp., which was founded in 1925.
    Thanks for the pic,
    Dave
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    “Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.”
    “Life's hard. It's even harder when you're stupid.”
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    Nice work dave....congrats on your finds....hard to believe, but I guess Pontiac stuff is now collectable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blak bart View Post
    Nice work dave....congrats on your finds....hard to believe, but I guess Pontiac stuff is now collectable.
    Funny Bart, because I was thinking it was going to be just another pop-can.
    But when I saw it was a 'Pontiac' wheel hub grease cap, I knew it must've been from the 1920s.
    Dave
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    Nice finds! I'm overdue for some old coppers... what are the items below the buttons in pics 24 and 25?
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