tnt-hunter
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- Apr 20, 2018
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- Detector(s) used
- Fisher CZ-21, Minelab Equinix 800, ,Garret AT Pro,
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
I have had more chances to detect at the scout camp. I finished the site I was working and started a new campsite. In 6 hours of swingin the CZ21 I found 123 coins with a face value of $8.98, 58 camp tent pegs, fishing sinkers, 2 rope tensioners, 2018 NRA hat pin, a blank hat pin, a 1 year pin, a thunderbird key fob, a blank pistol cartridge, fishing lures and a single blade scout knife.
The thunderbird key fob was part of a mailing in the 1960s to solicit donations for Native American children. I remember we got one in the mail when I was a teen. The internet site I found says it is made of pewter and on the back it says “With thanks from the American Indian children”. The slides are both current styles. The NRA pin is from the summer of 2018 and the pistol blank cartridge is marked LC 85 so it is from the Lake City arsenal made in 1985.
On the second trip to that site, in 6 hours of swingin I found 113 coins with a face value of $10.05, 91 camp tent pegs, a pile of fishing sinkers, 2 brass whatzits, a live rifle round, a table knife and 2 spoons, fishing lures, a neckerchief slide, a scout pin, a Cub Scout 1 year pin, 2 carabiners, a dead knife, lots of melted aluminum foil and a few can tabs.
The brass whatzit looks like the type of pack and bag fasteners used on WW2 equipment I used as a scout back in the 1950’s. I’m not sure exactly what this one was used on so anyone who recognizes these, please respond.
On my third trip to camp I decided to try a different site and on the way there I took a few minutes to scout out the activity field. The new site was a good choice. In 6 hours I found 192 coins with a face value of $17.73, 110 camp pegs including a big Bertha with the T top broken off, a table knife, sinkers, 2 rope tensioners, a Korean made stainless silverware set, a blank cartridge, tag from a Jawbone speaker, a whopper sinker (7.7 ounces), an older 38 cal. pistol slug, a small COLE pad lock body, a good lock back knife, a few tabs and the usual melted aluminum from the camp fires.
The silverware set is different from any I have seen before. The knife handle is hollow and the fork and spoon slip in the knife handle. It is decent stainless because a lot of the stainless deep in the ground at camp comes out with some rust and this set is in good shape compared to some others.
The blank has a headstamp IVI 89. I can’t find any info on that headstamp so any help would be appreciated. The wheatie is dated 1955. The older bullet is a 38 cal. The oxidation is heavier than any other lead from the camp and it looks like bullets I have found many times at sites from the early 1900’s through the 1950’s so it probably predates the camp. Possibly fired by the farmer who lived there long ago.
Yesterday I made another trip to camp and decided to start on the activity field. The blank I found had me curious and there were a lot of coins in my 15 minute scouting trip. I spent 2.5 hours in the field and then spent 3.5 hours working on the campsite I was working on. All together I found 154 coins with a face value of $16.38, 43 camp tent pegs from the campsite and 4 from the field, a bunch of mashed .22 slugs, a 25-06 slug, a mashed up all lead bullet, 2 .45 cal. slugs in great shape, 3 rope tensioners, an order of the arrow hat pin from lodge 132 in Springfield Illinois, 1 lonely little sinker, a Boy Scout slide, a Webelos slide, a wooden handle knife, a pile of cartridge casings, a few tabs and the usual melted aluminum.
The cartridges are several varieties with the majority being blank rifle shells. Here is a group picture. The non blanks are 270s.
There are several types of blanks. The 2 on the left had a cardboard stopper in the end with a slight crimp to keep it in place. This is the same type I found on a military training site when I was a kid. The rest have a fully crimped end. There are a variety of headstamps on the blanks. Pistol round - no headstamp (some of the rifle cartridges have no headstamp as well), #1 rifle - F A 5, #2 rifle - IVI 68 (or 89), rifle #3 - OFN 7.62 72, rifle #4 - WINCHESTER 270 WIN, rifle #5 - BPD 952 (I think this is British), rifle #6 - also BPD 952 (with a larger base and no groove at the base), rifle #7 - The headstamp is in Arabic. No clue what it says, but I saw a similar one on a casing from Egypt. I haven’t a clue why so many different types of blanks were used in camp on this field. In the years I have been going to this camp I have never seen it used for anything.
So more good hunting in the clean social distancing air, with a pile of gas money, more good scout stuff and a few mysteries to solve. Life is good and detecting is too. Thanks for looking, stay safe and may your coil lead you to good things.
The thunderbird key fob was part of a mailing in the 1960s to solicit donations for Native American children. I remember we got one in the mail when I was a teen. The internet site I found says it is made of pewter and on the back it says “With thanks from the American Indian children”. The slides are both current styles. The NRA pin is from the summer of 2018 and the pistol blank cartridge is marked LC 85 so it is from the Lake City arsenal made in 1985.
On the second trip to that site, in 6 hours of swingin I found 113 coins with a face value of $10.05, 91 camp tent pegs, a pile of fishing sinkers, 2 brass whatzits, a live rifle round, a table knife and 2 spoons, fishing lures, a neckerchief slide, a scout pin, a Cub Scout 1 year pin, 2 carabiners, a dead knife, lots of melted aluminum foil and a few can tabs.
The brass whatzit looks like the type of pack and bag fasteners used on WW2 equipment I used as a scout back in the 1950’s. I’m not sure exactly what this one was used on so anyone who recognizes these, please respond.
On my third trip to camp I decided to try a different site and on the way there I took a few minutes to scout out the activity field. The new site was a good choice. In 6 hours I found 192 coins with a face value of $17.73, 110 camp pegs including a big Bertha with the T top broken off, a table knife, sinkers, 2 rope tensioners, a Korean made stainless silverware set, a blank cartridge, tag from a Jawbone speaker, a whopper sinker (7.7 ounces), an older 38 cal. pistol slug, a small COLE pad lock body, a good lock back knife, a few tabs and the usual melted aluminum from the camp fires.
The silverware set is different from any I have seen before. The knife handle is hollow and the fork and spoon slip in the knife handle. It is decent stainless because a lot of the stainless deep in the ground at camp comes out with some rust and this set is in good shape compared to some others.
The blank has a headstamp IVI 89. I can’t find any info on that headstamp so any help would be appreciated. The wheatie is dated 1955. The older bullet is a 38 cal. The oxidation is heavier than any other lead from the camp and it looks like bullets I have found many times at sites from the early 1900’s through the 1950’s so it probably predates the camp. Possibly fired by the farmer who lived there long ago.
Yesterday I made another trip to camp and decided to start on the activity field. The blank I found had me curious and there were a lot of coins in my 15 minute scouting trip. I spent 2.5 hours in the field and then spent 3.5 hours working on the campsite I was working on. All together I found 154 coins with a face value of $16.38, 43 camp tent pegs from the campsite and 4 from the field, a bunch of mashed .22 slugs, a 25-06 slug, a mashed up all lead bullet, 2 .45 cal. slugs in great shape, 3 rope tensioners, an order of the arrow hat pin from lodge 132 in Springfield Illinois, 1 lonely little sinker, a Boy Scout slide, a Webelos slide, a wooden handle knife, a pile of cartridge casings, a few tabs and the usual melted aluminum.
The cartridges are several varieties with the majority being blank rifle shells. Here is a group picture. The non blanks are 270s.
There are several types of blanks. The 2 on the left had a cardboard stopper in the end with a slight crimp to keep it in place. This is the same type I found on a military training site when I was a kid. The rest have a fully crimped end. There are a variety of headstamps on the blanks. Pistol round - no headstamp (some of the rifle cartridges have no headstamp as well), #1 rifle - F A 5, #2 rifle - IVI 68 (or 89), rifle #3 - OFN 7.62 72, rifle #4 - WINCHESTER 270 WIN, rifle #5 - BPD 952 (I think this is British), rifle #6 - also BPD 952 (with a larger base and no groove at the base), rifle #7 - The headstamp is in Arabic. No clue what it says, but I saw a similar one on a casing from Egypt. I haven’t a clue why so many different types of blanks were used in camp on this field. In the years I have been going to this camp I have never seen it used for anything.
So more good hunting in the clean social distancing air, with a pile of gas money, more good scout stuff and a few mysteries to solve. Life is good and detecting is too. Thanks for looking, stay safe and may your coil lead you to good things.
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