1 1/4" SILVER harness ring?

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Ok, this item was in my last post, laying with my other relic-site finds. I was sure it was a harness ring and going to store it with my other finds (gotta keep the missus happy) today. But because it was tarnished and bluish & I couldn't remember what the TID was when I dug it, I decided to swing the coil over it. It rings at 91 on my Simplex scale, which is what a SILVER ring hits!
I', new to relics, and I couldn't find anything online because it only wants to show 'finger-wearing' rings. WHY would a 'harness ring' be made of silver?
Did they ever make a sword or scabbard ring out of silver?
Anyone have an idea?
Thanks,
John
 

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xr7ator

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Silver doesn't turn green. Copper and brass turn green.
 

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In my experience many round high conductive targets signal a little higher than their actual metal content. I think it is something about how the program in the detector interprets the field deflection on a ring shaped object.
Still a cool find....congrats!
 

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Most likely brass. Silver would be too weak for anything a horse pulls on.

Agree with the above poster, round items sound better
 

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Very unlikely silver; probably brass from the copper leaching out. Nice find, but, some humble advice that may not come across as humble...never rely on the VDI numbers alone. Your piece displays those numbers because it has copper in it AND it is circular.

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Erik in NJ

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It's not silver, it hit higher because it's round and a closed circuit which detectors like. The only thing they like even better are complete unbroken metal spheres which also hit higher.
 

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I agree with all of the above comments that it is not silver even though it may 'ring' up as such on the detector... pun intended. Silver would come out of the ground looking much better and clean up easily. It never hurts to ask though! :thumbsup:
 

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In my experience many round high conductive targets signal a little higher than their actual metal content. I think it is something about how the program in the detector interprets the field deflection on a ring shaped object.
Still a cool find....congrats!

Ok, I see the consensus is that the VDI is higher because of it being round. I wonder if anyone could tell me the normal VDI for brass with the Simplex? I know that a copper penny is about 65-67, and I ASSUME brass might be higher? If I knew the average VDI, then I could get closer to knowing the amount of disparity between 'normal' and 'artificially high' because of round shape. I like knowing the details- IDK if it's true, but I figure they'll only help you be better at this hobby!
Thanks for all the replies!
 

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I tried to see if anyone had posted a VDI chart for the Simplex yet, but didn't see one. I understand wanting to know. Maybe check the website for the company that made it and they may have a VDI chart.
 

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Here ya go Back of the boat. Target IDs can vary depending on conditions. These values are for the stock coil

Nokta Makro Simplex VDI Target ID Numbers

$1 Gold Coin 20/27
Buffalo Nickel* 23/24
V-Nickel* 23/24
Jefferson Nickel* 25/32
$2.50 Gold Coin* 28/38
Flying Eagle Cent 43
$5 Gold Coin* 50/56
Jefferson War Nickel 56/57
Indian Penny 64/68
$10 gold coin* 65
Zinc Penny 67/73
Capped Bust Half Dime 68
Wheat Penny 69
Two Cent Piece 71
Capped Bust Dime 75
Three-cent piece (Trime) 75
$20 gold coin 75/85
Braided Hair Large Cent 77/78
Clad Dime 78
Seated Dime 80/82
Barber Dime 82/83
Mercury Dime 83
Silver Roosevelt Dime* 85/86
Draped Bust Large Cent 87/89
Barber Quarter 90/91
Seated Quarter 91/92
Clad Quarter 90/91
Wash Silver Quarter 93/95
Franklin Half Dollar 95
Liberty Half Dollar 95
Barber Half Dollar 95
 

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Tape over the VDI & use your ears. I hardly look at mine, only gives you a ballpark.
Like others state, it's because it's round.
We call call those 'ring things', & get nearly 1 an outing over here. They have a massive date range & must have had multiple purposes.
 

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