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    Hey you! Or John

    Mar 2020
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    1 1/4" SILVER harness ring?

    Ok, this item was in my last post, laying with my other relic-site finds. I was sure it was a harness ring and going to store it with my other finds (gotta keep the missus happy) today. But because it was tarnished and bluish & I couldn't remember what the TID was when I dug it, I decided to swing the coil over it. It rings at 91 on my Simplex scale, which is what a SILVER ring hits!
    I', new to relics, and I couldn't find anything online because it only wants to show 'finger-wearing' rings. WHY would a 'harness ring' be made of silver?
    Did they ever make a sword or scabbard ring out of silver?
    Anyone have an idea?
    Thanks,
    John
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    I'm excited by the mystery of the history!

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    In my experience many round high conductive targets signal a little higher than their actual metal content. I think it is something about how the program in the detector interprets the field deflection on a ring shaped object.
    Still a cool find....congrats!
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    Most likely brass. Silver would be too weak for anything a horse pulls on.

    Agree with the above poster, round items sound better
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    Very unlikely silver; probably brass from the copper leaching out. Nice find, but, some humble advice that may not come across as humble...never rely on the VDI numbers alone. Your piece displays those numbers because it has copper in it AND it is circular.

    aj
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    It's not silver, it hit higher because it's round and a closed circuit which detectors like. The only thing they like even better are complete unbroken metal spheres which also hit higher.
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    I agree with all of the above comments that it is not silver even though it may 'ring' up as such on the detector... pun intended. Silver would come out of the ground looking much better and clean up easily. It never hurts to ask though!
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    Nice!!! Congrats!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrafirma View Post
    In my experience many round high conductive targets signal a little higher than their actual metal content. I think it is something about how the program in the detector interprets the field deflection on a ring shaped object.
    Still a cool find....congrats!
    Ok, I see the consensus is that the VDI is higher because of it being round. I wonder if anyone could tell me the normal VDI for brass with the Simplex? I know that a copper penny is about 65-67, and I ASSUME brass might be higher? If I knew the average VDI, then I could get closer to knowing the amount of disparity between 'normal' and 'artificially high' because of round shape. I like knowing the details- IDK if it's true, but I figure they'll only help you be better at this hobby!
    Thanks for all the replies!
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    I'm excited by the mystery of the history!

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    steve andermatt

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    I tried to see if anyone had posted a VDI chart for the Simplex yet, but didn't see one. I understand wanting to know. Maybe check the website for the company that made it and they may have a VDI chart.
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