Big Civil War brass

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The days are coming to a close when big civil war brass can be found, with some exceptions of course and those exceptions are when you find a spot no one else knew about.

I went out with two friends to a pounded site yesterday and we worked a little area we they had hit numerous times in the past. On a whim I decided to head to the aluminum can breeding field and started pulling cans out one after another. All were in parts so it was amusing to say the least.

I started picking up early buttons and some brass. IMG_2392.JPG These are two furniture tacks and brass brad. IMG_2393.JPG Mixed in were three thimbles, part of a spoon handle in pewter and two Civil War period poncho grommets. IMG_2394.JPG A section of what was probably a silver plated pocket watch chain and a .32 Smith and Wesson CW period casing, (no headstamp), IMG_2396.JPG , a piece of brass with several letters stamped on it, I don't know what it is for. IMG_2395.JPG , a folded up piece of brass something and a bullet shot piece of brass, bullet was about .32 caliber due to size of the hole.

I moved up a little ridge and got a solid, small "97" on the Deus. Lots of stuff on old sites in that range are pieces of very old cast iron pot. This signal was "smaller" and hit harder so I dug it. All the others were cast iron. Out pops this really nice 1825 large cent! IMG_2391.JPG I circled around the aluminum can breeding ground again and got a blow your ears off signal. I dug a fair bit as the signal was "odd". Sounded real good, like aluminum cans mating, but...so after a couple minutes of digging the hole wider I spotted something oval and deep green brass! I called Wayne over and I wanted him to get it out to share the excitement - I thought it was a plate and kept repeated to myself "please don't be a spoon"! Well, it wasn't any spoon!

This is the butt plate to an 1853 Enfield rifle in brass. The top tang has been carefully and deliberately bent so the whole thing is flat! IMG_2389.JPG You can see where someone took a small hammer and deliberately made the thing lay flat! So what would it have been used for? CW tongue depressor? Like, no. I think it was re-engineered to what we call today a "shoe horn", or in this case, a boot horn, to help get their boots on easier. This butt cap is much heavier and denser than most CW plates, it's amazing it was missed by everyone who has hunted the spot in the past. Rounding off the day was an eagle button which wil need some care to live, a nice iron buckle and the cool bottle neck. IMG_2398.JPG IMG_2399.JPG If you can guess what the item which is stamped brass with the "A Y " and other letter is, let me know. Maybe off a kerosene or whale oil lamp? Thanks for looking.
 

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"Aluminum can breeding ground"...that's funny! I get that way too. I was digging yesterday and got a nice Indian Head penny signal and was thinking...well here is my 10th bottle cap/zinc penny recovery and lo and behold actually found a 1907 IHP!
 

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That's my first 1825 largie, I hunt sites either older or closer to the CW and nothing after the CW. So I don't get many of these. The Enfield butt plate is my first CW butt plate. I have a complete Brown Bess lock and a side plate to an 18th century musket, and ram rod pieces. but never a butt plate before! Thanks.

Still looking for ideas on the lettered item. I'll clean the button today.
 

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Bumped for a friend.
 

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Nice!!! Congrats!!! I'm still waiting for the day I find a Largie!
 

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SWEET hunt there Smokey!!!! Here in Indiana we get all kinds of Largies but y'all have us on the Earlier Beauts!!!!! CONGRATZ.....
 

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Thanks all. I am using the hf elliptical coil but any machine would have found the butt plate.
 

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Smokeythecat,,I’m glad to see your feeling better,,you have to be in good shape to pull out all these treasures,,I hope I can go look for CW relics some day,,take care
 

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I went a little while today, but Friday's dig caught up to me and I snagged a thorn or something on the bottom of my foot, so...I only got a couple things.
 

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Thanks all. I am using the hf elliptical coil but any machine would have found the butt plate.

Congrats on the nice finds.
By the way how do you like that HF coil do you see a difference over the stock coil
 

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I like the HF coil better. It seems to hit harder and deeper.
 

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That was a good hunt. Congrats! One of the things I often think about when people mention the conditions they hunt thru is the fact that one of the biggest reasons you're still able to find good stuff is because of all the trash. Most people will cherry pick. Most people want to hunt the easy stuff. They disc out as much as they can. I'm glad when I find trashy areas because of that. You'll dig mucho trash but you'll find mucho finds too if you're willing to slow down, pick thru it, and dig! It's a sure sign you're not lazy Smokey!
 

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Great hunt! It's interesting to see something different like a butt plate come out of the ground...
...and that 1825 is sweet.
 

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BAD NEWS! We were on one of my best permissions today for a short time, and one buddy dug a gold coin, the other a seated quarter and all I got were some CS gardiner bullets! BUT...the other friend found two PRIVIES toward the end of the day (I KNEW we were missing something in that field, and we still can't find the house, it may be under the ROAD, OR they were CW privies), and due to social distancing I will be digging them on Tuesday! I KNEW KNEW KNEW KNEW we were missing something! Cat's intuition! I'm going up tomorrow to look at some of the broken ceramics and bottles that they left near a tree to date the site and mark the privies on GPS. I'm sure they will post their finds. Buddy #1 said it was his best digging day ever. I had to go home early :(
 

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Sounds cool!
 

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"Aluminum can breeding ground"...that's funny! I get that way too. I was digging yesterday and got a nice Indian Head penny signal and was thinking...well here is my 10th bottle cap/zinc penny recovery and lo and behold actually found a 1907 IHP!

LOL... that is a great saying! Up here in Michigan, we have what is called an "Aluminum Hatch"! It happens on our trout streams and is similar to a mayfly hatch but actually refers to the massive quantity of aluminum cans thrown into the river once they are empty! Congrats Smokey on the great finds!
 

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