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    us
    Mar 2010
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    Handful of coppers..Farthing? Catell?

    2021 is off to a great start! I got my 3rd, 4th and 5th colonial copper of the year this afternoon plus a bonus Indian.
    My first target was a clean signal in the pewter range on my Nox (12-13).. thought I was digging a tombac or a nickel, but it turned out to be what i believe is a copper farthing with “CATELL” stamped across the face. The reverse is wiped smooth. Im not too familiar with farthings but i believe the right facing bust puts it near 1730. Any insights on the “CATELL”??
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    My next good target turned out to be a 1902 Indian...

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    I moved a couple hundred yards to a little hill and got a fairly high tone on the Nox (29)... turned out to be a KGIi on edge... my fourth of the year... 1734?
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    My next and last good target turned out to be what i believe is another farthing... 1723
    Hibernia
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    I am not very familiar with farthings and my references are limited to the
    internet, so i would welcome your feedback... particularly any insight on the “CATELL”.

    Thanks for lookin
    HD
    Last edited by Hunting_Dad; Jan 11, 2021 at 10:49 AM.

  2. #2
    us
    Mar 2009
    United States
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    The top one looks like a William III which puts it 1690s to very early 1700s!
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  3. #3
    us
    Jan 2021
    Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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  4. #4
    us
    Oct 2010
    The Garden State
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    Hi! Looks to me like a half-penny as opposed to the smaller fathings, but hard to see in your pic. Have never seen a counterstamped half-penny dug here. Outstanding finds!

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by testing123 View Post
    The top one looks like a William III which puts it 1690s to very early 1700s!
    Agreed, looks like a Halfpenny as well. The Counter-stamp makes it a nice keeper.
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    us
    Mar 2010
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    Interesting....I did a little more research and have some more questions.
    The 1723 Hibernia is quite a bit smaller than the KGII so i assumed it was a farthing. It measured 25.6 on my calipers which according to my research makes it a halfpenny I guess.
    Also, looking at the counterstamped “farthing”, I can definitely make out the GVLIELMVS (sp?), making it a William III as suggested. At certain angles, i think I can see a “6” where the date would be on the reverse as well. However, that coin also measures just shy of 26mm... making it too small for a William III halfpenny and too big for a farthing
    I am a total beginner here, so again, I appreciate any insight.
    Thanks
    HD

  7. #7
    us
    Dec 2016
    Central NJ
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    Wear and time have taken the W3 down a couple mm's. Nice finds!
    Last edited by Gene Mean; Jan 10, 2021 at 09:45 AM.
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunting_Dad View Post
    Interesting....I did a little more research and have some more questions.
    Also, looking at the counterstamped “farthing”, I can definitely make out the GVLIELMVS (sp?), making it a William III as suggested. At certain angles, i think I can see a “6” where the date would be on the reverse as well. However, that coin also measures just shy of 26mm... making it too small for a William III halfpenny and too big for a farthing
    HD
    That is weird a farthing of Will III should be circa 23mm & a Half Penny circa 29mm, so your right its the wrong size. Which to me suggests a counterfeit Half Penny.
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    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

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    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    Have pleasant times finding pleasant things. 17/01/21
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
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  9. #9
    ca
    Feb 2009
    Deus, Minelab 3030, E-Trac,
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    Congrats on the coppers, especially the counter stamped. I put them up there on the ladder of finds, as some have traveled many miles.
    "If it was easy-It would have already been done-Life 101."
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  10. #10
    us
    Mar 2010
    Equinox 800
    35
    97 times
    I found this on a British site...

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  11. #11
    us
    Jun 2015
    Maryland
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    Nice early copper. I found a counterstamped George I years ago
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    1586 Elizabeth I Sixpence-1652 Pine Tree Shilling-1656 4 Reales Cob-1698 2 Reales Cob-1852 Gold $1-1853 O Gold $1-1876 Seated Half

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunting_Dad View Post
    I found this on a British site...

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    OK, never heard of it (the first one, the second one is in the book) & it's not in my Spink coin book, must be a pretty rare variant. (might be a mis-IDed counterfeit ...)
    Last edited by CRUSADER; Jan 10, 2021 at 01:21 PM.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    Have pleasant times finding pleasant things. 17/01/21
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

  13. #13
    us
    Kona Koma

    Nov 2017
    On the Beach
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    Really nice finds. Good job.

  14. #14
    us
    Mar 2010
    Equinox 800
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    Can anyone recommend a good reference book for colonial coins, tokens etc?

  15. #15
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    us
    May 2007
    central pa
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    good stuff! congrats

    vp

 

 

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