Handful of coppers..Farthing? Catell?

[Hunting_Dad]

2021 is off to a great start! I got my 3rd, 4th and 5th colonial copper of the year this afternoon plus a bonus Indian.
My first target was a clean signal in the pewter range on my Nox (12-13).. thought I was digging a tombac or a nickel, but it turned out to be what i believe is a copper farthing with “CATELL” stamped across the face. The reverse is wiped smooth. Im not too familiar with farthings but i believe the right facing bust puts it near 1730. Any insights on the “CATELL”??


My next good target turned out to be a 1902 Indian...



I moved a couple hundred yards to a little hill and got a fairly high tone on the Nox (29)... turned out to be a KGIi on edge... my fourth of the year... 1734?


My next and last good target turned out to be what i believe is another farthing... 1723
Hibernia


I am not very familiar with farthings and my references are limited to the
internet, so i would welcome your feedback... particularly any insight on the “CATELL”.

Thanks for lookin
HD

 

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[testing123]

The top one looks like a William III which puts it 1690s to very early 1700s!

 

[Tibodoe]

Beautiful!

 

[Erik in NJ]

Hi! Looks to me like a half-penny as opposed to the smaller fathings, but hard to see in your pic. Have never seen a counterstamped half-penny dug here. Outstanding finds!

 

[CRUSADER]

The top one looks like a William III which puts it 1690s to very early 1700s!

Agreed, looks like a Halfpenny as well. The Counter-stamp makes it a nice keeper.

 

[Hunting_Dad]

Interesting....I did a little more research and have some more questions.
The 1723 Hibernia is quite a bit smaller than the KGII so i assumed it was a farthing. It measured 25.6 on my calipers which according to my research makes it a halfpenny I guess.
Also, looking at the counterstamped “farthing”, I can definitely make out the GVLIELMVS (sp?), making it a William III as suggested. At certain angles, i think I can see a “6” where the date would be on the reverse as well. However, that coin also measures just shy of 26mm... making it too small for a William III halfpenny and too big for a farthing
I am a total beginner here, so again, I appreciate any insight.
Thanks
HD

 

[Gene Mean]

Wear and time have taken the W3 down a couple mm's. Nice finds!

 

[CRUSADER]

Interesting....I did a little more research and have some more questions.
Also, looking at the counterstamped “farthing”, I can definitely make out the GVLIELMVS (sp?), making it a William III as suggested. At certain angles, i think I can see a “6” where the date would be on the reverse as well. However, that coin also measures just shy of 26mm... making it too small for a William III halfpenny and too big for a farthing
HD

That is weird a farthing of Will III should be circa 23mm & a Half Penny circa 29mm, so your right its the wrong size. Which to me suggests a counterfeit Half Penny.

 

[pepperj]

Congrats on the coppers, especially the counter stamped. I put them up there on the ladder of finds, as some have traveled many miles.

 

[Hunting_Dad]

I found this on a British site...

 

[toasted]

Nice early copper. I found a counterstamped George I years ago

 

[CRUSADER]

I found this on a British site...

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OK, never heard of it (the first one, the second one is in the book) & it's not in my Spink coin book, must be a pretty rare variant. (might be a mis-IDed counterfeit ...)

 

[Kona Koma]

Really nice finds. Good job.

 

[Hunting_Dad]

Can anyone recommend a good reference book for colonial coins, tokens etc?

 

[vpone]

good stuff! congrats

vp