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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis View Post
    Buckle boy that was what a local dealer had told me. Nothing that I had found myself. What I found was exactly what you had said.
    have you reached out to O’Donnell about it? Obv a dealer doesn’t know what this is when there is no documentation of one, and it doesn’t exist in the recently published ID books for plates. Wonder why Hanover brass is making a reproduction when it’s not in the buckle books?? Maybe I’m missing something here. Just been blindsided by a relic I didn’t know existed after years researching Kentucky relics. Forgive the skepticism!
    Last edited by BuckleBoy; Feb 17, 2021 at 12:02 PM.
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  2. #32
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    Buckleboy I will reach out to him. I did reach out to KMI alumni on their site and they were not aware of KMA. I received a response from Smokeythecat when I originally posted on the civil war forum. He had a book that gave me some info on it. I will attach it. I'm all about research and have searched to the end of the internet, ha. I haven't been able to actually look at the book he is referring to. Trust me I would hate it if I found a reproduction. The yard next to where I found it, I found a cast I button and a couple of mini balls. This is what steered me to it being civil war.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy View Post
    have you reached out to O’Donnell about it? Obv a dealer doesn’t know what this is when there is no documentation of one, and it doesn’t exist in the recently published ID books for plates. Wonder why Hanover brass is making a reproduction when it’s not in the buckle books?? Maybe I’m missing something here. Just been blindsided by a relic I didn’t know existed after years researching Kentucky relics. Forgive the skepticism!
    The only KMI buckles that I've seen on the internet were rectangular. The only oval type plates I've seen (KMI/KMA) are from reproduction sellers. And this may be a dumb question...why would a KMI/KMA Cadet have a cartridge box/plate? KMI was a "college" not a "unit".

    I'll side with BB on the skepticism, he's well educated in Kentucky Military History.
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  4. #34
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    I have reached out to Steve Sylvia and Mike O'Donnell for some information. I am waiting on a reply. Hopefully soon I can get some more answers.
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    Elvis, I just always knew that you were still with us. I also vote BANNER Find on this plate. Very nice and also very rare. I'm glad to see some great relics still being found and saved here in Georgia. Congrat's to you. This may very well be one of very few in existence. This would be most deserving of a center spot in your collection. Well Done from a fellow Georgian and relic hunter. Some times if you are interested I'll tell you of a story of a guy I used to hunt with that dug a pornographic brass plate from a trench in Chicamaugua. It was featured years ago in one of the relic hunting magazines. Again, Super Save on a Great artifact from the CW.

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    That whole area along now what is I 75. Is super productive. But pvt land is vanishing fast that’s close to where I found my colt pistol. Ringgold tunnel hill If you are up that way. Check out a small log cabin gun store. Guns of Yesterday. They have been the 2 generations have a lot of stuff nailed to the walls from back when searching was easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis View Post
    I have reached out to Steve Sylvia and Mike O'Donnell for some information. I am waiting on a reply. Hopefully soon I can get some more answers.
    Thanks so much for your good spirited reply. All of this is in the quest to find out what it is you dug. I don't doubt that it is period, just not certain it's correctly attributed in the Kerksis book. Will be really cool to see what ODonnell says! If there is only one other one known then that is a VERY valuable plate my friend!
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    Eagle "I" cuff button
    1851-O and 1855-O half dimes
    1895-S Barber Dime (dug by KFB)
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    Would you be willing to post a photo of the Back of the plate please? That may help in the ID.
    2021 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    c.1870-80 Otis A. Smith .32cal rimfire pistol
    bullet mold "MASS ARMS CO" for the .36cal Adams Patent Revolver
    South Pacific Coast Railroad Lock 1876-1887
    hammer from a percussion musket/rifle
    Eagle "I" cuff button
    1851-O and 1855-O half dimes
    1895-S Barber Dime (dug by KFB)
    Quarter ounce of melted silver from a planation site
    Minieballs, Beefaloes, V and Shield Nickels, and some GawGag

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  9. #39
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    Here is a picture of the back when I dug it. I will take another picture after I get home from work.
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    That is one Great looking plate. I'm excited too as to what the I'D on this will be. I'm excited for you. Banner find and Save for sure.
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    The more I look, the more I'm convinced that the plate is definitely not attributable to Kentucky.
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    1320, hopefully I can get some answers soon.
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    Here is a couple of better pictures of the back.
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    Hi All --- Here is a bit of information regarding the North Georgia Area Line of March for the Federal Army Sherman was actually a civil engineering student major at West Point During his SR year he mapped Georgia as part of his studies. That is one of the reasons he was able to center his line of march from TN to the Georgia coast when he took command of the Army
    He mapped what is now I 75 to what is now I 16 , He sent his flanking wings out on what is now I 20 east and west out of Atlanta. That is one of the main reasons that his line of march followed these routes he had mapped as a student

    I have the luck to have studied some of his works when I lived close to West Point so when I moved to GA I think I had some insite

    My friend owns family property that borders on the Battle Field which actually pushed down to the Ringgold Ga area On his side of the property line was a hospital which during the conflict was actually used by both sides as the lines changed ( similar to the one in SW Atlanta and Kennesaw )

    Inside his property line was a rock wall This was recovered there between the rocks ( i have posted the pic before on a rock wall post )

    So the area is getting played out since there is so much development in that area

    Follow the hunt !!!!!

    Here is a clue for any North Ga hunters --- when you see the land being plowed up or graded for another strip mall Check those piles of dirt !Name:  IMG_0059.JPG
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    Wow!!!! That is awesome
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