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  1. #61
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    the bottle is a J.W. HUNNEWELL and Co patent medicine bottle (universal cough remedy) (Boston). It would have been morphine or opium based and very effective at stopping a cough. 1860's to 1880's but from the look of it on the later not earlier end of that range. Clean it up and re-post it and put it over in the bottle forum and you will get more accurate info.
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  2. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclemac View Post
    the bottle is a J.W. HUNNEWELL and Co patent medicine bottle (universal cough remedy) (Boston). It would have been morphine or opium based and very effective at stopping a cough. 1860's to 1880's but from the look of it on the later not earlier end of that range. Clean it up and re-post it and put it over in the bottle forum and you will get more accurate info.
    While it is true that these bottles were originally intended for use as medicine bottles, this particular style and shape of bottle really caught on and was popular here on the west coast in the mid 1800s as a spice or condiment bottle. They usually had ground dried herbs or spices such as black pepper, mace, cinnamon etc. It would make sense that this is a condiment bottle since it was found with other cooking and kitchen items. Here is a link to a similar bottle recovered in California.

    https://historysmc.pastperfectonline...E-068805030790

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    There was an F.W. Hunnewell and J.W. Hunnewell attending Harvard University in 1862

    I suspect if some research was done, we would find out J.W went into business shortly after graduating from college. The contrary could also be shown.

    Here is an interesting article regarding that style bottle being used for spices.

    Western Bottle News

    Is your bottle pontil marked on the bottom?
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  4. #64
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    I have to wonder if the bottle was for mercury! That would be cool!
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  5. #65
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    While the bottle could have been re-used to hold anything, it is also true that TB was a rampant disease in the west and all over. I find "cure" bottles in every post contact spot I hunt.
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    What a cool discovery. Congrats.
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  7. #67

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    Here is the bottom of the bottle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendo0601 View Post
    Here is the bottom of the bottle

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    No pontil mark, but still a neat bottle.

    https://www.ongenealogy.com/listings...massachusetts/

    If your interested in dating that bottle, you may find the earliest J.W. Hunnewell was listed in the business directory. That might establish an earliest date?
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  9. #69
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    That is just an insane find! Belongs in a museum if you ask me. What a piece of gold rush history. I am always fascinated with these types of discoveries, that you know they intended to return later to retrieve it but for some reason they were not able to make it back. Itís a mystery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbermaster View Post
    That is just an insane find! Belongs in a museum if you ask me. What a piece of gold rush history. I am always fascinated with these types of discoveries, that you know they intended to return later to retrieve it but for some reason they were not able to make it back. Itís a mystery.
    It was not uncommon for miners to drop everything and hurry to the next big gold strike.
    That almost looks like too much gear for one man to carry without a horse.
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  12. #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesorodeoro View Post
    It was not uncommon for miners to drop everything and hurry to the next big gold strike.
    That almost looks like too much gear for one man to carry without a horse.
    It’s not too much for one man to carry, I can promise you that! My back still hurts LOL. My theory is that this stuff was cached with intent on returning to dig it up and continue mining when the weather improved or when there was water in the creek. Perhaps the fellow got sick and needed to convalesce somewhere a little more hospitable and he never made it back? It was all deliberately stacked and buried it wasn’t a haphazard trash pile....and whoever buried it had intentions to return. I’ve carefully studied the surroundings and there is a row of small rock piles spaced about 10 feet apart and about 10 feet off the last pile is where this cache was. Were the stones a marker for the burial site? Coincidence? I don’t think anyone will ever know but it’s fun to speculate lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendo0601 View Post
    It’s not too much for one man to carry, I can promise you that! My back still hurts LOL. My theory is that this stuff was cached with intent on returning to dig it up and continue mining when the weather improved or when there was water in the creek. Perhaps the fellow got sick and needed to convalesce somewhere a little more hospitable and he never made it back? It was all deliberately stacked and buried it wasn’t a haphazard trash pile....and whoever buried it had intentions to return. I’ve carefully studied the surroundings and there is a row of small rock piles spaced about 10 feet apart and about 10 feet off the last pile is where this cache was. Were the stones a marker for the burial site? Coincidence? I don’t think anyone will ever know but it’s fun to speculate lol
    Why did it take you two trips to pack it out then

    I don’t doubt it was cached. Just saying it could have been left behind while they hightailed it quickly to the next gold boom camp (with plans to possibly come back and resume mining in that area later). Lots of reasons it could have been stashed. I’ve read that during the gold rush, you had to stay and work your claim or it was forfeited due to being idle. Some miners would arrange for others to work their claim if they had to go on an extended trip.

    They may have left to join the fight if it was 1860’s era.

    It is fun to guess.
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  14. #74

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    Sweet finds!

    I found a cache like that one summer when I was detecting in a goldfield in Montana. I found parallel lines of square nails, so I new I was following the remains of sluice boxes.

    Then I got a whopper of a signal under an old pine tree, and someone back in the 1800's had buried their whole outfit under that tree. I imagine they were planning on coming back to get it some day; however, there were a lot of miners murdered in that district by Henry Plummer's organized crime gang of cutthroats, so who knows.

    Once again, sweet find, and congratulations,

    Lanny
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    Nothin' quite as fun as chasin' sassy nugget gold! http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/me...mysteries.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanny in AB View Post
    Sweet finds!

    I found a cache like that one summer when I was detecting in a goldfield in Montana. I found parallel lines of square nails, so I new I was following the remains of sluice boxes.

    Then I got a whopper of a signal under an old pine tree, and someone back in the 1800's had buried their whole outfit under that tree. I imagine they were planning on coming back to get it some day; however, there were a lot of miners murdered in that district by Henry Plummer's organized crime gang of cutthroats, so who knows.

    Once again, sweet find, and congratulations,

    Lanny
    did it include anything remarkable?
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