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    MEDIEVAL QUATREFOIL KEY?

    Found this today I'm thinking this is what it is. I was wondering if anyone could confirm this and maybe narrow the date down a bit.

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    Nice!!! Congrats!!!
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    Thought may aswell share this Liz I 3 pence I also found today. 1580.Click image for larger version. 

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    They are generically called Medieval (14th C) Casket Keys.
    However, I spoke with a specialist in Medieval locks & most locks would not have used that type of key on a small box/casket.

    Therefore, I theorize that as some should signs of wear from suspension, they were like a lucky pendant hung from the neck. The Key is a religious symbol for the keys to the gates of haven held by St Peter. So it could be a St Peter cult?
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    A Medieval, copper alloy casket key, dating from about AD 1150 - 1350. It has a lozenge shaped bow with a central, circular perforation, separated from the stem by a bulbous collar. The stem is hollow at the bit end, and there is a rectangular bit, curved on the leading and outer edge corner (furthest from the stem), with a cleft in the front or leading edge. The key has a rough, dark green grey patina. It is 37.8mm long, 10.5mm wide and 3.7mm thick. It weighs 3.59g. Compare DENO-21DA05 which notes that Geoff Egan dates such keys to the late 12th to late 14th century (1998, "The Medieval Household", The Stationary Office London, p.111).
    https://finds.org.uk/database/artefa...cord/id/919954
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    They are generically called Medieval (14th C) Casket Keys.
    However, I spoke with a specialist in Medieval locks & most locks would not have used that type of key on a small box/casket.

    Therefore, I theorize that as some should signs of wear from suspension, they were like a lucky pendant hung from the neck. The Key is a religious symbol for the keys to the gates of haven held by St Peter. So it could be a St Peter cult?
    A back in the day religious cult sounds like an epic theory. This key was less than 20 yards from where I found the gold noble, maybe they belonged to the same person?

    Thanks for replying

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    Thanks Matt for the link , it's very similar Indeed.

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    Nice find, I am jealous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Combs View Post
    Nice find, I am jealous
    Thanks Randy, the key was definitely my favourite find today.

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    Cool key and 3 pence
    Last edited by cmthunder; Feb 21, 2021 at 08:00 AM.
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    Steve Rowland’s,

    Nice find. Question on another topic, did you ever get your gold noble straightened and identified. I thought it was an amazing and rare find and was surprised it did make the banner. Good luck with your hunts and I hope you find another gold noble. Walt
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    Quote Originally Posted by WG2020 View Post
    Steve Rowland’s,

    Nice find. Question on another topic, did you ever get your gold noble straightened and identified. I thought it was an amazing and rare find and was surprised it did make the banner. Good luck with your hunts and I hope you find another gold noble. Walt
    Agreed a no brainer banner, but thats not how it works around here, sadly....
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    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    Have pleasant times finding pleasant things. 17/01/21
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
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    Very cool find!!!! keep it up!!!
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    Very nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WG2020 View Post
    Steve Rowland’s,

    Nice find. Question on another topic, did you ever get your gold noble straightened and identified. I thought it was an amazing and rare find and was surprised it did make the banner. Good luck with your hunts and I hope you find another gold noble. Walt
    The goldsmith I want to use is still closed to the public due to Covid 19 restrictions.
    I will get it straightened and tag you in to thread so you can see the results.
    Thanks for taking an interest.
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