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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by silversurfer1111 View Post
    How old is this military artillery button?
    Any info would be greatly appreciated!
    Foud in VT @ an old foundation along with this 1897 V nickle.
    Thank you for looking.



    Nice hunt getting that great looking button, congrats!
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    2 great saves, wtg
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    In order to further my education on button identification can you please tell me what reference you used to ID it?
    nhbenz was the first reference! Seriously, only my second dug button ever so I posted it here as a 'what is it?' on my first ever thread.

    There does seem to be conflicting information online as to if the production started around 1808 or in the 1820's. https://www.georgewashingtoninauguralbuttons.com puts the varieties with the three cannon balls underneath (which this dug one has) in the 1820's to 1830's range. The backmark also seems to conform to the 1820's and 1830's civilian flat button style with the three word, simple font, and incised. The stylistic factors aren't always conclusive, but that's why I would lean towards the 1820's to 1830's date range over the War of 1812 range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCW View Post
    The next time try taking the picture from the end of your driveway.
    Just kidding, but do try to get a little closer next time.
    Excellent find!
    I'm the last one to judge photo quality!
    I don't know if you know this or not but you can click on the picture and it will open up a link to a bigger picture, and if you click on that picture you'll get an even bigger picture. And from there you can pinch and zoom to further zoom into the picture. I have 20/20 vision I can clearly see everything. I'm not trying to be an ass just saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by pepperj View Post
    Nice hunt getting that great looking button, congrats!
    Cool how did you do that ? ... I'm on an Android tablet and when I upload the pictures are very small unless you click on them.. probably my mobile browser
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    Quote Originally Posted by paleomaxx View Post
    It's an 1820's to 1830's general use artillery button which means it could have either been a federal or a state militia unit.

    These are special buttons to me as one of these was only the second I ever dug up detecting. And out of thousands of buttons I've dug to date, I've only found three so it's far from a common button. Congrats on the very good find!
    While the button books date them to 1808 to 1821, and they do turn up on War of 1812 sites, I believe (my opinion) that surplus of these buttons were sold or provided to state militia units, as I have found several of them on the property of the captain of a local artillery militia unit that was active in the 1820s-1840s.
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    I apologize. I was being a smart ass.
    I did know those things. I hope you accept my apology.
    Very presumptuous on my part to assume that it was funny.
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    Hi My Fellow TH'ers
    Congrats on the War of 1812 artillery Jacket button. Your button is a bit older than what was posted here. it is from the 1808 1821. From what I cam tell it is an Y 52B. I am not able to make out the back mark.
    My suggestion for a good button reference book is 'Record of American Uniform and Historical Buttons Bicentennial Edition' by Alphaeus H. Albert This is available on Amazon for around $150.00 or so. There are other button reference books available but this is the one that I use for all my button finds. All of the War of 1812 buttons I have found so far are cuff buttons. Congrats again of a great button.

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    Excellent save on the button. Plenty of history in that find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCW View Post
    I apologize. I was being a smart ass.
    I did know those things. I hope you accept my apology.
    Very presumptuous on my part to assume that it was funny.
    No need for apology. I was literally trying to help you out because for a little while I didn't know you could click on the pictures lol
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    .....dude.... that is beautiful

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    Great finds, Silversurfer! According to Albert, it looks like your artillery button is from 1808-1821 and all of the artillery buttons from that era are relatively scarce. Way to go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by silversurfer1111 View Post
    Cool how did you do that ? ... I'm on an Android tablet and when I upload the pictures are very small unless you click on them.. probably my mobile browser
    Sometimes when the original post is quoted they come up that big.
    Systems glitches, it goes with the other quirky things that are happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCW View Post
    I apologize. I was being a smart ass.
    I did know those things. I hope you accept my apology.
    Very presumptuous on my part to assume that it was funny.
    Taken in the right context a little smart assness can save the day.Always appreciate a good yuk!
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