fla state archies to dig at fort san carlos --fernandina, fla --this sat. 1-3

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fla state archie's to dig at fort san carlos --fernandina, fla --this sat. 1-3

local paper noted that local fla state archie types will be doing a dig this saturday -- public welcome 1 to 3 pm --- you park at fort clinch ( it cost to enter the park -- $5 --I think) after parking they will bus you by tram over to the dig site --- I going to check it out besides I want a bit of "face" time to explain a few things and hopefully chat with them in person about stuff -- my shipwreck off the southern end of the Island for one.
 

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Be careful how much you tell them, or the next time they might be digging your wreck!
 

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them stealing the wreck out from under me with me gettting zip for the "find" ain't happening --- if so a lawsuit is in the works count on it --- I have already reveled the wrecksite "offically" to the state and have dated proof of when I did --- and have claimed the wrecksite already with the state*** but they will not issue any salvage / recovery type permits -- their stalling me -- the state archie types are saying its a in "protected" aquatic preserve area thus "no" for profit harvest permits can / will be issued only non profit research permits (where universitys and the state keep all the stuff found ).-- if they keep screwing around -- I'll go "public" full bore with the info.--- to allow non profeits to work the wreck but not for profeits is blantant discrimation against "for profeit" salvors.
 

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Let us know what you find Ivan. Here is hoping it's treasure. Wooohooo!

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ivan salis said:
I have already reveled the wrecksite "offically" to the state and have dated proof of when I did --- and have claimed the wrecksite already with the state*** but they will not issue any salvage / recovery type permits -- their stalling me --

You have set the machine in motion. The beauracracy has awoken. BEWARE! :o
 

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how esle can I legally salvage a shallow water (but under sand) wrecksite that if you tried to work illegally ( not that I would --not my style) would be easily seen and visible by nearby shore based state park folks and would only lead to arrest? --- plus any attempt to do any illegal salvage would lead to loss of my claim and any rights plus lots of legal problems which I don't need --I like to do my stuff legally and above board anyway. --- there has to be a legal way to get to the site other than the non profiet route.
 

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Re: fla state archie's to dig at fort san carlos --fernandina, fla --this sat. 1-3

Sounds like its time to start a non profit research company, Ivan. :D
 

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yeh - but to "set up" a non profiet "research" outfit you need PHD after your name and a whole bunch of other egg heads to work with you and "private donations of cash funding"to run off of----- plus the project can't sell their finds to "raise cash" it must be fully self supporting --- (PHD is often called --- piled high and deep) --- I only have a nautical science cert.--- NS from charles county community college in la plata ,maryland with a 3.53 gpa --- and my god given talents and skills.
 

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good luck today at the hunt
 

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well the "big guns" were no shows -- the "public outreach" lady was there -- and giving total dewbie types a "mini dig" treat -- they dug 2 very small test pits abour 6 ft long and a couple feet deep -- "the finds"-- a few hand made nails a larger iron type spike and couple of 1840 ish era 4 hole buttons -- nice but not overly exciting - I' m a bit jaded with such a great site for them to explore I was hoping for much more --- the folks there seemed very impressed with a few of my show and tell type goodies I brought with me from the house.
 

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Re: fla state archie's to dig at fort san carlos --fernandina, fla --this sat. 1-3

ivan salis said:
well the "big guns" were no shows -- the "public outreach" lady was there -- and giving total dewbie types a "mini dig" treat -- they dug 2 very small test pits abour 6 ft long and a couple feet deep -- "the finds"-- a few hand made nails a larger iron type spike and couple of 1840 ish era 4 hole buttons -- nice but not overly exciting - I' m a bit jaded with such a great site for them to explore I was hoping for much more --- the folks there seemed very impressed with a few of my show and tell type goodies I brought with me from the house.
Way to go Salis. Your stuff is better than theirs. Question is: did you learn anything useful from them?
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sadly didn't get much out of it --seemed I knew as much or more that the most of the folks there, oh well .
 

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good luck Ivan keep fighting the b@#$!@#Ds,,,, Guzz1
 

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