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    Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    Hey all! I have been lurking and checking out the posts but not posting much lately. Been busy around the house with the family, gardening and cutting firewood. Still getting out detecting for short hunts. Took my 10 year old daughter fishing along the stream that borders our property, she caught a brook trout and a rainbow trout, both nice eating size but she was on the catch and release program so we put them back gently. We had a blast. Here she is with the rainbow trout.

    One of the farmers spreading yesterdays cattle feed, I was glad to be able to get down wind from this smell on the other side of the field!

    A birds nest we had along side our barn, they flew the coupe the next day after this picture.

    I bought a 2003 Suzuki 4X4 detector mobile. My oldest son got his license and after driving around looking for the right car for two weeks, I got tired of looking and gave him my Audi and bought myself what I wanted, or close to what I wanted, LOL.

    I never thought I would do something like this but… The town where I detect mostly and I am also a member in the historical society of is celebrating its 1000th year of being a town. I was asked to participate in the support of the festival and given the task of playing a medieval soldier 25/26 July-08. This is actually kind of fun. Since I was given my uniform, the society asked that I join them in a parade last Sunday which I did. 200 surrounding towns participated in the parade, we marched over 2 miles through the county seat of Tirschenreuth. It was really awesome seeing this parade up close and being involved, it was a great medieval representation of the area. Now here’s the funny part, I did not realize we were marching in a parade until we got there, my German is good but many times I do not understand a few words here and there. Imagine my surprise when we were lining up and it was fully explained what we were about to do! We are going to do what Here’s a picture of me as the medieval soldier in full, still naďve and not knowing I am about to march in a parade through the town, LOL.

    The field I have been detecting is a fresh mowed hay field, not much left as I have pounded it having found my oldest coins and relics around this field. I was going for the weak deep iffy signals. What a surprise, those weak signals turned out to be some awesome relics. Here are two lead seals, two thimbles and a finger ring made from bronze, was probably plated in its earlier life, LOL.

    Two 1700s copper coins, lucky to get a date from these thin coppers.

    Three tiny silver coins, low grade silver around .167 but always nice to find!

    This is an un sure find, looks like a medieval cross bow bolt tip designed to break whatever it hit, would be an unusual design. Approximately 32mm/1.25”. I welcome any ID help or opinions!

    This looks like a cap badge. A double headed eagle with a crown on top. Could be Russian, Prussian or Austrian but looks like a Russian. The wing is bent behind. I welcome any ID help!

    Reverse of the cap badge.

    A bowl weight from the 1800s and a cock valve from the 1500-1600s for a small keg tap.

    Here is one of the best seal matrixes I have found and one of my favorite relics to find. Seal matrixes are very personal as they were an individual’s signature. It is possible to trace down the person that used it. This matrix is probably 300-400 years old.

    The matrixes stamp in clay. Top has a knight’s helmet surrounded by plumes. Center has a quarter moon, dragon’s bust, star. Lower middle the letter “H”, right a fowl, duck or a chicken, almost looks like it is sitting on three eggs. This is really a beautiful coat of arms.

    Top stem of the matrix, fits comfortably between the thumb and index finger. A quick update on a survey. The Archies and students did a survey where the 1000 year old town supposedly stood from 1008-1250 AD. They used a magnetometer where the buildings should have been. Their report said they found no evidence that a town ever stood there. We now have two more possibilities, the field where I found these relics once had a farm, could have been the original town. Another site I detect has also given up awesome relics and also had a farm on it close by, another possibility and is the field above with the tractor. I will post about the original town site hunt later with finds. HH, Mike


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    Re: Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    These are all STELLAR finds! The seal matrix is one of the finest I've seen posted here. Silvers are great, and all of the other relics are top notch. Hopefully someone will be of assistance on the "cross bow bolt."

    Great photography, as always.


    Regards,


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    Silver spoon made by Alexander McGrew 1805-1836
    Coin Silver mid-1800s "Fede Ring"
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    End of a gold crucifix or mechanical pencil
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    Re: Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    Great historical finds and that seal is the best. Hope you can trace it to a person. That would be awesome!

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    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

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    Very entertaining post. Great relics. Your 4x4 is nice too. Keep up the good work.
    Best Finds:

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    Re: Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    congrats on your superb finds! i enjoyed the pictures.

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    Re: Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    Sweet finds! I love that stamp with the coat of arms.
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    Re: Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    Very interesting finds. Thats one large trout!!

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    Nice finds, like the uniform !.

    HH Robert

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    Re: Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    Hi.

    Re Crossbow bolt, looks like image No 9 ,page 18, of 'The Crossbow. Its Military and Sporting History, Construction ans Use' by
    Ralph Payne-Gallwey. A bolt for use against large birds, probably water fowl

    Hope this helps 'Fourtrak'.

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    Re: Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    Very historic. Love the pics!
    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip* SOLD $1,583*,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800--** British 31st ROF Cartridge Box Plate** SOLD!! (PRIVATE AMOUNT), Vermont Ryder-3 *$1200...To be continued

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    Re: Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    Fantastic finds and hunting with Children :Priceless!!!

    Thanks for posting those nice pictures, sort of looks like the Stuttgart area, where I was stationed
    while I was in the Army, many decades ago. LOL

    HH,Ringfinder
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  12. #12
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    Re: Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    I thought this was turning into a SUV commercial when I saw the first few pics.

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    Re: Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    Quote Originally Posted by fourtrak
    Hi.

    Re Crossbow bolt, looks like image No 9 ,page 18, of 'The Crossbow. Its Military and Sporting History, Construction ans Use' by
    Ralph Payne-Gallwey. A bolt for use against large birds, probably water fowl

    Hope this helps 'Fourtrak'.
    I agree that the archery tip is definately for small game or birds. They are designed like this to catch turf in the case of a miss. This limits the loss of the arrow. There are modern versions available, and in use today. I am an avid archer, and use similar tips for rabbit. Great finds.
    Thats gonna itch when it dries.

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    Re: Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    hi Mike, Awsome finds and thanks for sharing

    t.p

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    Re: Lurker finds Medieval/post Medieval relics...

    Great finds, you are making me miss Germany already.
    HH

 

 
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