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  1. #1
    lovedigging

    HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    Haven't been out in a few weeks and it's been killing me. Not like me at all,but to much work and so hot... Yesterday here in Virginia it was in the high 90's and the heat index reached 108 so I decided to stay in my truck with the air conditioning on high and try to find a few new spots. My luck was pretty good, after about two hours I had two new places to go so I was at one at day break today. It didn't seem to matter much cause it was already very hot and the ticks looked like a parade coming up my legs but within five minutes I found the 69 bullet and was determined to find the old house site the farmer had said was once there. After about an hour I had dug a few buttons and another bullet when I hit a grassy area and hit a strong signal. After sweeping my Whites -DFX over it a few times I could tell it was fairly large so I started a pretty good circle around it and when I flipped the grass over I about fell over. Within two inches under the ground was this parrot shell. I never dreamed I'd be lucky enough to dig one after digging a cannonball with my brother a few months ago. It was a shame he wasn't with me...Anyway, I hope someone can help me identify it and suggest where I can take it in Virginia to have it defused... I weighed it on my scales and it was just over nine pounds. I'd like to put it with my collection but I don't want to have to worry about blowing up my house Also can someone help me with the flat button Hope everyone is having a great weekend and staying COOL...
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  2. #2
    us
    Sep 2007
    Ring Of Fire
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    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE MORTAR SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    Maybe there is a local Army National guard unit near with EOD( explosive ordanance disposal team . I don't know if something that old could do anything but when in doubt, leave it alone Furthermore, did they even have a mortar shell during the civil war I don't know but it appears to be something more modern

  3. #3

    Apr 2008
    central new york
    2 compass coin pros
    668

    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    great finds! that big bullet scares the heck out of me. there was a post somewhere here where an experienced cannon ball collector painted his drive way, with blood!
    if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!

  4. #4

    Feb 2008
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    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by flyinguy
    great finds! that big bullet scares the heck out of me. there was a post somewhere here where an experienced cannon ball collector painted his drive way, with blood!
    Tacky. Since he was a fellow MDer and CW collector and preservationist and died doing what he loved.

  5. #5
    us
    Nov 2005
    North Central Tennessee
    MXT
    830
    53 times

    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    First, GREAT find.

    Now, it's NOT going to just blow up, so stop worrying.

    DON'T take it to, or call the military EOD, or local PD.....they will very likely confiscate it, and 'dispose' of it (blow it up in a safe area, and you're out your CW relic.

    Like I said above, it's not just going to just blow up. You're fine.

    I'm not sure exactly what shell you have, or of the fuze, but I know of a couple of folks who could tell you, so before you do anything rash, please contact either or both of them.

    One of them is John Walsh of Fort Donelson Relics, and he can be reached at: mailto:john@fortdonelsonrelics.com

    The other person is recognized as an expert of Civil War artillery, and he lives in Virginia, I believe. His name is Peter George, and he is an author of several books regarding shells. He can be reached at: mailtoetegeorge2@comcast.net.

    Please, contact them with any of your questions regarding safe handling of this relic.

    Like I said, it's not just going to just 'blow up', just like a bullet in your closet isn't just going to just 'fire'.

    PS, I can already hear the naysayers..how are you so sure it's not going to explode, yet you don't know exactly which shell it is...well, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of different types and calibers of CW artillery shells. No, I don't know EXACTLY which this particular one is without an accurate measurement, and weight, but I do know that since this shell failed to explode 145 years ago, it's NOT going to just explode now. Both of the gentlemen whom I referenced above are also experienced in 'defuzing' or rendering inert CW shells, and BOTH of them can attest that CW shells don't just 'blow up'. I invite any doubters to contact Mr. George, and let him explain it to you. He is likely the world's leading authority on American Civil War Artillery. Read his books.........you'll be amazed.


    Roger

  6. #6
    lovedigging

    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ramjet2187
    First, GREAT find.

    Now, it's NOT going to just blow up, so stop worrying.

    DON'T take it to, or call the military EOD, or local PD.....they will very likely confiscate it, and 'dispose' of it (blow it up in a safe area, and you're out your CW relic.

    Like I said above, it's not just going to just blow up. You're fine.

    I'm not sure exactly what shell you have, or of the fuze, but I know of a couple of folks who could tell you, so before you do anything rash, please contact either or both of them.

    One of them is John Walsh of Fort Donelson Relics, and he can be reached at: mailto:john@fortdonelsonrelics.com

    The other person is recognized as an expert of Civil War artillery, and he lives in Virginia, I believe. His name is Peter George, and he is an author of several books regarding shells. He can be reached at: mailtoetegeorge2@comcast.net.

    Please, contact them with any of your questions regarding safe handling of this relic.

    Like I said, it's not just going to just 'blow up', just like a bullet in your closet isn't just going to just 'fire'.

    PS, I can already hear the naysayers..how are you so sure it's not going to explode, yet you don't know exactly which shell it is...well, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of different types and calibers of CW artillery shells. No, I don't know EXACTLY which this particular one is without an accurate measurement, and weight, but I do know that since this shell failed to explode 145 years ago, it's NOT going to just explode now. Both of the gentlemen whom I referenced above are also experienced in 'defuzing' or rendering inert CW shells, and BOTH of them can attest that CW shells don't just 'blow up'. I invite any doubters to contact Mr. George, and let him explain it to you. He is likely the world's leading authority on American Civil War Artillery. Read his books.........you'll be amazed.


    Roger
    Roger, Thank you for the information and I wil put it to good use... I'm not worried about the shell or I would've left it there. I agree with you that if it didn't explode in 145 years it probally won't now I'd just rather do the smart and safe thing and have it defused. Again, I really appreciate your help...

  7. #7

    May 2007
    New England
    Minelab Explorer XS
    387

    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    Great find. You should have no problem getting it deactivated. You can find a world of info and expects on the subject here:
    http://cwpforums.com/forum/

  8. #8
    us
    Nov 2005
    North Central Tennessee
    MXT
    830
    53 times

    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    Absolutely, I'm not advocating NOT having it defused, I'm just saying you don't have anything to worry about it just 'going off'..............

    And again, GREAT FIND.

  9. #9
    us
    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
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    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    until inerted it can be dangerous * while things wil not just "explode"without cause (like many nervious nellies think it will)--- it has not blown up for almost 150 years why start now? --- that said however --- there are things that can make the explode -- like falling so that it impacts on the fuse , being drilled into (sparks and black powder bad mix) , and extreme heat

    it is an explosive item --so treat it with due respect of course-- heck I used to haul ammo on a ammo ship during the first gulf war -- most explosive items if handled with care and smartly aren't that dangerous --its when you mistreat / handle them carelessly that you might not live to regret it.

  10. #10

    Feb 2008
    Winchester, Va
    White's XLT
    66

    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    TC!
    what a great find! WHile I am scraping paint off my house, you are still out there battling the heat and ticks!
    Great work! I can't wait to see that stuff in the flesh (when it is defused of course!)

    More items for the TC/DC Civil war museum!

    have a great one
    DG
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  11. #11
    us
    May 2008
    Virginia
    Tesoro
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    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    Very nice!!! you must be around fredericksburg/wilderness. I am in central virginia.
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  12. #12
    us
    Apr 2007
    Gulf Coast, Texas
    AT Pro, Bounty Hunter Land Star, Ace 250, Garrett 1350
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    11 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Caryl
    Quote Originally Posted by flyinguy
    great finds! that big bullet scares the heck out of me. there was a post somewhere here where an experienced cannon ball collector painted his drive way, with blood!
    Tacky. Since he was a fellow MDer and CW collector and preservationist and died doing what he loved.

    Not tacky, just the truth...Be careful.....AWESOME FINDS BTW...............
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  13. #13
    lovedigging

    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by dorkyguy
    TC!
    what a great find! WHile I am scraping paint off my house, you are still out there battling the heat and ticks!
    Great work! I can't wait to see that stuff in the flesh (when it is defused of course!)

    More items for the TC/DC Civil war museum!

    have a great one
    DG
    DG, Thanks for the reply... You need to get that house done and hook up with my brother and I before long, Stay Cool...

  14. #14
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    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    EXCELLENT FIND!

    Send it off to be defused. Until then, keep it cool--like in a basement or something. The water that comes in around the fuse hole reacts with the black powder over time to produce flammable gasses that can be worse than the gunpowder itself--and more flammable. In many instances, this is what causes a shell to "burp" when being drilled. Shells have been in the ground at a fairly constant temperature over the last century and a half--and bringing them up and keeping them in a warm environment speeds up this reaction of water (sealed in by rust around the fuse hole) and powder. So just keep the shell in a cool place and send it off to a CW professional for defusing. Do NOT send it to any authorities--they will detonate it!

    Congratulations on digging a GREAT piece of American history!


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  15. #15
    us
    Oct 2005
    Northern Virginia
    New Excalibur II, DFX w 12" Super and stock coil, XLT with stock coil, 14" & 6" coils
    232

    Re: HOLY S$$$... A LIVE PARROT SHELL AND CW FINDS!!!

    Way to go brother........AGAIN!!!!

    As many have said before, you must have the golden horseshoe!!!!

    Congratulations on another great find. I too wish I could have been there today. I must say though that I can guarantee you that what I was doing was a LOT hotter than what you were experiencing. It's way too hot to be hunting in the weeds right now, maybe its time to go to the beach again and find some more rings .

    Cant wait to hold that shell in my hands. As far as the buttons, the New York looks great, my monitor at home sucks (its really dark) so I will have to wait until I get to work tomorrow to take a better look at the other buttons for an I.D.

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