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  1. #1
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    Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    Right under my coil!

    There's one site I've been hunting on and off for a couple of years. I've never hit anything particular fantastic at it--though some nice stuff--but something about it kept me coming back. The location shows up on 1700s maps, though never with anything located on it. Just the blank spot between roads and houses. But, a week or so ago, I hit an Indian Head on it and my oldest Merc, a '23, so I knew there were still goodies there. A couple days later, I hit it again and found another Indian. Then 2 nights ago I hit it and didn't find anything but an old, or semi-old, button and a 1919-S wheat. Now I've never seen anyone else on that site but dog-poopers but I talked with a woman at work about it after I'd found the Indian and Merc and she said she'd hit it with her club years ago. So, when I was there last night--and not finding much--I glanced across the road and thought, "hmmmm..., I never thought abut that spot before. I wonder if there's anything interesting there." "Maybe no one else has hit it much." (Which I suspect turns out to be the case.) After leaving work tongiht I was going to hit another spot but when I drove past I decided to hit it anyway, so parked nearby and walked around the corner to see what I thought. There was actually a part of that park I'd never even noticed before, and I've driven by it hundreds of times! Okay, I figured, if I hadn't noticed that, the odds are good that it hasn't been hit too hard. So I went back to the Jeep and geared up.

    Walked to the unknown part and hit nothing but trash and then a modern spill wi/ two cents, two quarters, and then a dime, all right on the surface. Worked my way along further and dug a signal that turned out to be #$*#$% and then kept going to the part of the park that I'd at least seen before, when I used to live out along that road. Hunted along the edge, and then towards the middle for about an hour with nothing to show for it but a couple of clad dimes and memorials. It was staring to get dark by now. About then, I got a signal that was bouncing around between the top left of the screen but seemed to be stuck a bit on the 24 conductive level, though i t was bouncing a lot on the ferrous (horizontal) axis. But it seemd to be doing that pretty consistently. Was reading about halfway down on the depth meter. After some failed iffy readings earlier--including some disappearing signals that were probably hot rocks--I wasn't too confident but I was thinking "Indian" at that point since the VFO seemed to be locking on to it pretty well. Cut the plug, dug down, and was VERY pleasantly surprised. I was so surprised, I didn't think to take a pic. Cleaned it up slightly with some spit and a toothbrush and thought I had a early 1800s Classic Head large cent. Didn't find out until I got home that it wasn't. King George II (27.8mm 8,0g):





    I was quite excited by now and, after checking the hole, poured the dirt back in, flipped the plug back, I started spiralling slowly and carefully out from that spot. After a few minutes, about 18 inches away, I got a similar signal. Oh yeah! Cut the plug, pulled out some dirt, and again about 6" down, found me a wonderful piece of copper. Did the ol' spit and toothbrush bit and saw something I couldn't quite believe. "That really can't be a ****ing Fugio, can it?" Whether it was or wasn't, I was already feeling "detecting can't get much better than this." 1787 Fugio, no idea what variety yet (28.1mm 9.2g):







    Now I was really getting excited! And still muttering to myself, "That really can't be a ****ing Fugio, can it?" I tucked the 2nd large copper away between the cotton and, amazingly enough, remembered to run the probe back in the hole. SING! Off to the upper right and deeper. Another one in the same hole? A colonial pocket spill? Dig, dig, dig. As I got carefully got closer the readings were starting to look like possibly silver but, after a brief bit of extra excitement, large copper #3 was in the loose dirt in the bottom of the hole. I haven't been able to find what coin this one is yet. (And I think I went through everything nd.edu has up in their colonial section as well as a few other spots.) It looks like it would be distinctive with that extra large left-facing bus and the circular decoration on the back. The Washington Success medal shows some similar design elements but it's definitely not that. Can anyone ID this coin?
    Unknown (28.9mm 12.6g):









    Stashed that baby away and checked the hole again. Nothing this time. Finished up, stood up and continued detecting. A short distance away--between the excitement, the darkness, and spiraling around I was getting a bit confused at this point--but probably about two feet opposite on the other side of the first hole I started getting a nice tone with similar cursor bouncings as the first three. Cut another plug and, a bit deeper than the others, I think, up popped large copper #4. (A bit of brushing away with fingertips for the photo.) King George I, I believe (28.0mm 9.2g):







    With #4 safely stashed away, I started detecting again. But I was really getting confused at this point as to where I'd detected and dug the previous ones. I had the general area but as to specifics, I was lost. After those hits I was digging anything that sounded close but came up with nothing interesting for the next 10m or so and wrapped it up for the evening. I drove home on Cloud Nine wondering if those four large coppers were all from a colonial pocket spill, some sort of meeting or business location (but not finding much iron yet), part of a stash, or something else entirely.

    I also stopped and picked up some celebratory fluid. (Man, Lagavulin has gotten WAY too expensive.)

    Any suggestions for cleaning/not cleaning/professional cleaning gladly taken. Etc.

    I WILL hit this site hard. (Probably starting tomorrow night.)

    _Rich_
    (Is the frog boiled yet?)

  2. #2
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    Dec 2007
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    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    AMAZING! I am so jealous! I want a colonial coin! Maybe Ben Franklin himself dropped those coins. Way to go!

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    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    WOW! a chain cent, do I smell banner? good job.

  4. #4

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    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    Wow, a real fugio cent. Have fun on the BANNER!

  5. #5

    Dec 2007
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    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    That's amazing!

    I've never even seen one of those!

    You've done a great job for us all... they were lost, forever, 'til you went there!

    WTG!

    HH
    rmptr
    I am a pathological liar and a functional illiterate.

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    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    Dang nice BANNER find
    Leave no stone unturned.

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    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    Looks like a nice place to detect.... Congrats on the Fugio Cent I guess if your gonna find coppa's that would be on the wish list!
    BTW, has anyone ID'd coin #3? HH M.

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    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    Man. . . what a Colonial night!! I couldn't even begin to dream of finding those!

    Killer spot! BANNER!

  9. #9

    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    Rich, nice mix of colonials, your unknown might be is a mid to late 1700's French copper, still looking for positive ID.

    Don

    Update: I have a coin that matches the bust of yours, but the reverse side is worn smooth, but many years ago I identified mine as a 1774-1789 French 1 Sol copper.
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

  10. #10
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    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    BANNER FOR SURE.....WTG Great finds. I bet you are anxious to get right back there and dig some more. Way too cool..... jgas
    JGAS

  11. #11

    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    Quote Originally Posted by Don in SJ
    Rich, nice mix of colonials, your unknown might be is a mid to late 1700's French copper, still looking for positive ID.

    Don
    Yes, 12 Deniers, along that line. About 1790s.

  12. #12
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    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    Thanks, everyone! I'm still pretty excited about it and can't wait to hit that spot again tonight.

    Don, I was hoping you'd chime in. What would your recommendation be for cleaning or getting these coins cleaned? Are the KGs common enough that it wouldn't matter if I H2O2'd them?

    Iron Patch, it looks like you nailed it! Since you posted that, I found a German(?) site selling a Louis XVI 12 dennier coin where all the points that are visible match up--but weighs slightly over 16g rather than the 12.6g one I found. (And there's no way it's been shaved that much.)



    But the Notre Dame site does list a 12 dennier coin (with different faces) as 12.28g so some 12 denniers were certainly in that range. Also found a site that distinguishes between the Royalist and Republican versions of the Louis XVI 12d coin. This is the Republican version which started being minted in 1791. But I'm still having a hard time finding a good french coin site. I'll have to keep digging. (Pun unintended but I like it.)

    _Rich_


    (Is the frog boiled yet?)

  13. #13
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    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    Yep...I believe I'd be pitching a tent there. Nice digs Rich.
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    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    YEP!
    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip* SOLD $1,583*,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800--** British 31st ROF Cartridge Box Plate** SOLD!! (PRIVATE AMOUNT), Vermont Ryder-3 *$1200...To be continued

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    Re: Fugio, Fugio, wherefore art thou, Fugio? (4 LCs: 20 min., 3 holes)

    Congrats on some great copper! Research is king, but sometimes just going by a hunch pays off!

    WTG!

 

 
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