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Positive ID- Vlack 3-74A 1774 'Machin Mills' Counterfeit British Half Penny
Worked on this thing for about 8 hrs. Had the ID down to 2. Woke up this morning looked at the date again and could see the "4" very clearly. (last number and only one still there). and everything lined up perfectly. There is only 1 reverse for this year. (the 1784 M.M. isn't even close). So that gave me 3 options on obverses and I already knew which one I had. The "8" obverse has no dot between the "III" and "R" so nix that one. The 7 obverse is "GEORGIUS" not "GEORGIVS" as I have, so nix that one. The only other one was the 3 obverse which I had already matched to the coin so I gave it another look. Matched perfect. Group I Vlack 3-74A at VERY RARE or R-6+, 13-25 or so known specimans. So away I went to a collector friend I know in our area. He himself confirmed it, along with the weight of 6.9 grams which puts it exactly into the known counterfeit weight.(Regals go 9+ grams) BINGO. Coin is being sent to Heratige auctions tomarrow and hopefully will be logged into the Long Beach auction. Coin is also being sent in it's uncleaned form to NCS for a proffessional analysis and cleaning. I didn't want to touch this one. By the way, even though these (group "I" classified) coins were minted in NYC, and are named as "Counterfeit British Half Pence Minted in America", they are classified as "Machin Mills". Something as fact I did not know till I talked to the Rep. @ Heratige.( He is a coin collector too). I know the pics didn't come out good because of all the patina I left on the coin,(I only used warm water), but here they are again.
Worked on this thing for about 8 hrs. Had the ID down to 2. Woke up this morning looked at the date again and could see the "4" very clearly. (last number and only one still there). and everything lined up perfectly. There is only 1 reverse for this year. (the 1784 M.M. isn't even close). So that gave me 3 options on obverses and I already knew which one I had. The "8" obverse has no dot between the "III" and "R" so nix that one. The 7 obverse is "GEORGIUS" not "GEORGIVS" as I have, so nix that one. The only other one was the 3 obverse which I had already matched to the coin so I gave it another look. Matched perfect. Group I Vlack 3-74A at VERY RARE or R-6+, 13-25 or so known specimans. So away I went to a collector friend I know in our area. He himself confirmed it, along with the weight of 6.9 grams which puts it exactly into the known counterfeit weight.(Regals go 9+ grams) BINGO. Coin is being sent to Heratige auctions tomarrow and hopefully will be logged into the Long Beach auction. Coin is also being sent in it's uncleaned form to NCS for a proffessional analysis and cleaning. I didn't want to touch this one. By the way, even though these (group "I" classified) coins were minted in NYC, and are named as "Counterfeit British Half Pence Minted in America", they are classified as "Machin Mills". Something as fact I did not know till I talked to the Rep. @ Heratige.( He is a coin collector too). I know the pics didn't come out good because of all the patina I left on the coin,(I only used warm water), but here they are again.
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