FIND OF MY LIFETIME!!! - UPDATE FROM LEADING EXPERT...
This type of coin has been on the top of my wish list for 25 years or more. Now I have one.
It came from a pasture field which was hayed about a week ago. I have had no other Celtic items other than this off this field. Although we have noticed the soil is a good quality & less clay than the surrounding area.
This coin was most likely placed in the soil during a ritual to bless the land for good crops.
This coin was only 2inches deep (the field was ploughed about 10 years ago).
When I first dug it & I saw its edge, I thought 'wow a gold button!'. When I realised what it was & showed Dad there was much shouting & arm waving, so much so the farmer & his wife came out to have a look
Its a CELTIC GOLD STATER;
Ruler - CUNOBELIN
Minted about 20AD
Value - £500 ($1000)
To say I'm happy with this coin would be an understatement.
I am currently getting advice from the leading expert as it seems to be an unusual variant! (I will update later)
UPDATE (21/07/08)
This is what the Leading UK Expert said:
Congratulations! You must be delighted with this, and quite rightly so. I do like these wild type staters, partly because the horse looks so bizarre, and this is a good example of that.
I can’t remember offhand how VA separates these two varieties – something about the size of the little star on the reverse? I suspect this is not a very good way of separating them out, but no matter. I had a quick look for die-links, and there is at least one coin from the same pair of dies:
The obverse is quite recognizable because of the flaw on the second leaf up on the right, next to the M of CAMV. There’s another example of that obverse die here (which is listed as VA 1933.01, not 1933.03):
The reverse too is quite distinctive, with the ringed pellet very far over to the left below the horse. Again there may well be others from this die. In terms of date, Cunobelin’s wild type is usually placed somewhere in the middle of his reign, say c. 20 AD, so I guess your coin is coming up to its 2000th birthday!
THEREFORE ITS ONE OF ABOUT 76 RECORDED.
Quote from a leading dealer;
Retail; £550-600
He would buy for £400-450
Not that I would sell it, but I will give the farmer £200 to keep it.
TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
Woahow!. I Knew you would do it and i wont be surpriced if you turn up another goldie this year. Superduper coin
I dont know to much about theese gold staters. Are the solid gold or do they have a copper core?
Anyway Big congrats!
Woahow!. I Knew you would do it and i wont be surpriced if you turn up another goldie this year. Superduper coin
I dont know to much about theese gold staters. Are the solid gold or do they have a copper core?
Anyway Big congrats!
This one is a solid Gold type. (some types do have a copper core)
I have worked hard for this but it was worth every hour!
TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
Funny thing was abou 1.5 years ago I said to Kirtpa when he was saying go out & get a gold one. I said its my 5 year plan to get one
TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
Woahow!. I Knew you would do it and i wont be surpriced if you turn up another goldie this year. Superduper coin
I dont know to much about theese gold staters. Are the solid gold or do they have a copper core?
Anyway Big congrats!
This one is a solid Gold type. (some types do have a copper core)
I have worked hard for this but it was worth every hour!
Even sweeter then. You worked hard and it payed of as it should be.
Did you have any abstinens from not being on the banner Well you got your dose now anyway
A super find for a most deserving individual! Congrats and I know you must be on cloud nine to get one of your dream finds, and most likely when you least suspect it.
Nothing like finding a solid gold coin that is only 2000 years old, LOL, I guess now we can hope you find a second one of a different variant.
I did see one very similar to your coin on the Colchester site! Again, congrats and may your 4th gold coin come this year also....
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
A super find for a most deserving individual! Congrats and I know you must be on cloud nine to get one of your dream finds, and most likely when you least suspect it.
Nothing like finding a solid gold coin that is only 2000 years old, LOL, I guess now we can hope you find a second one of a different variant.
I did see one very similar to your coin on the Colchester site! Again, congrats and may your 4th gold coin come this year also....
The ones on Colchester are similar but not quite the same. Mine has 2or3 dots above the M, & on the other side a dot above the O.
TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts.
Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed and well-fed.
~Peace~
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
I always read your posts, see the amount of work to sometimes find a scrappy Roman coin, or the time invested by you and your father to find a button or buckle and definitely worth all that time and effort to see one of those come out of the ground, and to have your dad there makes it even more special!! Congrats on a well deserved Banner coin, but even more so congrats on finding a well deserved coin was rescued by such a hard working history hunter like you!!
"Two things are infinite, the Universe and Human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the Universe"
~Albert Einstein~
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