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  1. #31

    Sep 2006
    Maine
    White's M6 & Prizm III
    1,442
    10 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (1)
    Honorable Mentions (4)

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Awesome find!!!!! Love those old colonial state coppers!!!! Congrats on the find and on making the banner!!
    So many promising sites to detect...so little time....

  2. #32
    us
    Best find 1819 Large Cent

    May 2008
    Pittsfield ma
    Whites PRIZM IV,Whites M-6
    1,061

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Super Awesome find Hogge Congrats
    Thats it no more swinging with Rico
    Nick can have him back for a partner cuz im all done with him!
    It,s just you and i from hear on in Right!
    LOL..

    P.S. When are we going to your site

    Congrats again on a find of a lifetime
    G1
    Golden1

  3. #33
    us
    Best find 1819 Large Cent

    May 2008
    Pittsfield ma
    Whites PRIZM IV,Whites M-6
    1,061

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Congrats on the Banner bud
    Ill call you from work!
    Golden1

  4. #34
    us
    Jan 2008
    3,351
    8 times

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    congrats on the banner. that is one awesome find

  5. #35
    us
    Apr 2007
    Colonial, PA
    White's Pro XL
    3,846
    1 times
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Awesome coppa recovery, Hogge! You always amaze me with your super Colonial finds!

    I know the feeling of yanking out a beautiful coppa...mine goes back to the time when I dug my 1793 George Washington Ship Halfpenny in MINT condition. It definitely was a thrill, buddy!

    Keep the Colonial passion at an ultimate high!

    Kirk

  6. #36
    au
    Jan 2006
    Canberra
    Fisher F75
    1,000
    19 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Great coin, well done. It will be good to see it when fully cleaned but don't rush.
    Ad astra per alia porci

  7. #37
    Charter Member
    us
    Sep 2006
    Fremont, Ohio
    Fisher F-75, CZ-70, CZ-21, 1280x, Vibraprobe 560
    1,464
    69 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Congratulations on the banner!! I was speechless yesterday but today at least I can say Holy Smokes what a find!!

    Steve

    Research and ye shall find!

  8. #38
    us
    May 2006
    The Beautiful Berkshires in Western Mass.
    White's DFX
    515
    13 times
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Just excellent Hogge!!........I've pulled a lot of Connecticuts, 4 NJ's and 2 Mass Coppers from our neck of the woods but never a Vermont and I always thought that was odd........what a wonderful coin you have found!.........Great job!

    HH all!

    Greg

  9. #39
    us
    Apr 2006
    PA
    White's XL Pro 6000
    1,501
    1 times

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Congrats on the banner, fellow Colonial seeking amigo! You ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!

    Those early PA settlers did too much and that is why coppas are found in abundance!

    The Three Datectateers will miles to find the Colonial "stuff"!

    KirkKyleChris (KKC) and to those long-forgotten, coppa-dropping settlers!

  10. #40

    Mar 2005
    N.E.P.A.
    Fisher CZ-5, Fisher 1280-X
    642
    1 times
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Congrats on the "find of a lifetime".
    And congrats on the banner.
    What a coin!!!!!!!
    The ultimate!!!!!

  11. #41
    Bryce-IL

    Aug 2007
    Wherever Silver's Hidin'
    Minelab Explorers and E-Trac
    3,775
    136 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Holy crap...what an awesome find.
    Here's the story of my BEST FIND EVERhttp://www.treasurenet.com/forums/be...find-ever.html

  12. #42
    Charter Member
    CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER

    Jun 2006
    Moonlight and Magnolias
    Fisher F75, Fisher 1266-X and Tesoro Silver ÁMax
    14,948
    2046 times
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    Banner Finds (4)
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Oh YEAH. That is Quite a coin there. I can say I'm more than a little jealous! :P

    -Buck
    2014 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    1792 French 2 Sol Copper
    181? Cut Quarter of an 8 Reales
    1826 Two Reales
    1827 Peruvian Republic 1 Real
    1815 Ferdinand 1 Real
    1829 Cap and Rays 1 Real
    Dateless Half Real
    1872 Seated Half Dollar
    1876-S Seated Quarter
    Five Seated Half Dimes: Two 1840-O Half Dimes, 1842-O, 1848-O and 1857
    1876-CC, Two 1876-S, Two 1887 and an 1888 Seated Dimes
    U.S.S. New Orleans Silver Pendant (1890s)
    Large New Orleans Hallmarked Silver Spoon
    185? Large Cent
    Confederate Pelican Civil War Button
    1840s Convex Eagle Militia Button
    CW Eagle "I" Button
    CW Era "snake" Sword Hanger
    Blacksmith-Forged Picket Pin
    1941 Walking Liberty Half Dollar
    1896 Barber Quarter
    1943, 1954, and 1963-D Quarters
    1902-O Barber Dime
    1945 and 1945-S Mercury Dimes
    1864-L Indian Head Cent
    186?, 1866, and a Dateless Shield Nickel
    Assorted Civil War Bullets and Musketballs
    Plantation Tokens
    Indian Head Cents, Wheats, Buffaloes, and GawGag
    OUR 2013 YEAR-END POST: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...-end-post.html
    OUR 2012 YEAR END POST:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/20...ml#post3120940

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds signatures were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  13. #43
    Charter Member
    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
    Above: 1786 Vermont landscape copper ryder 7 variety. Found August 2007
    Whites VX3, Whites DFX (with 4x6 shooter DD coil and 12" spider coil), Minelab Rocco 2700
    3,889
    723 times
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    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Congratulations on making the banner. Ryder 7....Nice More rare than the ryder 6.

    Rob
    2014 Notable Finds :

    6 Large Coppers as follows:
    1837 Hard Times Token (Millions For Defence Not One Cent For Tribute)
    1732 King George II halfpenny
    Counterstamped Large Cent (Braided Hair Variety)
    No detail large cent (Most Likely Draped bust)
    1850 Braided Hair Large Cent
    1828 Matron Head Large Cent
    1869 2 Cent Piece
    1865 2 Cent Piece
    8 Indian Heads including a nice 1872 Key Date and an ​1864 "L"
    1 silver Washington quarter
    1 barber dime 1916
    4 Mercury dimes
    1 Buffalo nickel
    10 cent trade token
    Gold Class Ring (1957) (Returned to Owner)
    Brass horse pommel (circa 1650s-1700s)
    Native American knife blade
    NYC & HRRR Co. Lock
    Eagle button (1812?)
    Eagle Cuff Button
    General service eagle button
    Small size batwing buckle
    1 Crotal bell
    Rings: 3
    1 Religious Medal
    1 Pocket Watch (brass)
    1 Brass locket with star design
    Silver Plated buckle piece

  14. #44
    us
    What a great hobby this is...

    Apr 2007
    Tulsa, OK
    Fisher F75, CZ-3D, CZ-7
    440
    2 times

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    SWEEEEET!!!! Can't wait to see this one cleaned up...

    HH Robert...

  15. #45

    Re: 1786 "VERMONTENSIUM" Copper in Ma. Ryder 7 var.

    Congratulations on a banner of a find! The details are very sharp indeed, the fact you cleaned it with water and a toothbrush and did not reveal a smooth surface makes it suspect for micro pitting and other corrosion. Personally, I would be cleaning it in peroxide, but I have done hundreds of coins using peroxide and I trust what I am doing, since if the coin has no damage done from corrosion, then peroxide would safely remove the encrusted dirt from the coin. If it does become worst, than that is because the coin was already damaged by corrosion, thus the reason for the encrustation that is still on there after the water and toothbrush cleaning.

    Also, if you found another copper at this site, did it look similar in appearance when dirty, if so, did you clean that copper and was it alright or corroded underneath? Sometimes coins found at the same site will be a clue as to how well they do, but like everything else in this world, nothing is set in cement. I found two 1804 Half Cents within 20 feet of each other at the same homestead, one was immaculate while the other one was rather corroded, so go figure.

    I can only think of NCS for a cleaning service that would even touch a colonial copper, I am not sure but there is a forum on their website and you might be able to post a photo and ask before sending it out. If the coin is worthy then it could be sent on to NGS for grading.

    Here is that specific forum for "Ask NCS" I think if you sign up and post the questions and photos of your coin, you might get somewhat of an answer from a NCS expert. http://boards.collectors-society.com...c=4&PHPSESSID=

    It is part of the NCS/NGC website: http://www.ncscoin.com/

    Don

    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

 

 
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