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  1. #1
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    Dec 2007
    kihei maui
    xlt- surf master - tiger shark-sand shark
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    1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    i went on a birthday hunt yesterday and it spilled over to today darn lol i found a 1891 V nickel and some wheat's a bunch of horse shoes 2 rusted spurs and a pile of junk but the things that are getting me are these tags i put them on what is it but no good i found them at an old unused church 1862 founded they seem to have a crown with a cross in front any help is appreciated
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  2. #2
    HCW
    HCW is offline

    Feb 2007
    White's MXT
    577

    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    In Hawaii?! Cool.

  3. #3
    us
    Feb 2008
    river valley/ Fort Smith, Arkansas
    white's DFX,Classic III, Prizim II
    1,124

    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    not a clue but cool anyways
    I quit smoking 2/26/08
    cleaning  Earth 1 pulltab at a time.

  4. #4
    us
    Jul 2008
    Neosho,Mo
    Minelab E-Trac ,Tesoro cibola
    236

    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    Do these have anything at all on the opposite side?

  5. #5
    um
    Dec 2007
    kihei maui
    xlt- surf master - tiger shark-sand shark
    83
    2 times

    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    no the back is plain

  6. #6
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    Jun 2006
    Moonlight and Magnolias
    Fisher 1266-X and Tesoro Silver µMax
    12,272
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    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    Either a moratorium tag or some sort of tax tag is my guess.
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
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    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
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    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
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    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  7. #7
    us
    Feb 2008
    Chester County, Pennsylvania
    Garrett Ace 250, Garrett Propointer
    1,187
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    Not sure what they are but they are very kool!! WTG
    That which does not kill us, only makes us stronger!!

  8. #8

    Mar 2008
    151

    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    The hat looks more like a cardinal's than a king's crown.

  9. #9
    us
    Jul 2004
    Shelbyville or any yard where the owner will let me detect!
    ace 250
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    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    maybe the church deacons wore them for id purposes?!
    definetily looks like something from a church !
    ALLEN

  10. #10
    us
    Jan 2009
    Amarillo
    Garrett GTI 2500
    456

    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    Very cool. My parents are vacationing in Hawaii as we speak.
    You can't find what you don't look for.

  11. #11
    us
    May 2006
    The Beautiful Berkshires in Western Mass.
    White's DFX
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    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    very nice.......could these be old dog tax tags?

    HH all!

    Greg

  12. #12
    us
    May 2009
    ny
    minelab xterra 50/minelab safari
    113
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    i think there coat check tags for a hotel.i could be wrong.nice finds

  13. #13
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    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
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    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    church humm -- the crown looks like the --" hawiian crown" --- a type used by the old hawiian royality --- the church might have been set up and supported by planters * ( american , british or german maybe) most planters were foreigners and set up churches for converting the local hawaiians to their religions ( it helped them gain control of them via religion -- (the preachers told the hawaiians to be meek and peaceful and go along as part of their convertion "process")--the outside "bussiness" planter faction ( basically a ultra wealthy bunch of robber baron types) illegally over threw the king and took over control of the hawiian islands by causing "unrest" from within --then "demanding" the usa land troops to take over since things had "broken down" and the king was not "in control" anymore --once the US military "intervened" --the queen was forced to sign over all powers to the us govt --basically she was held in house arrest for "her protection" until she did so. -- it was similar to the way the native american indain "land grabs" were done -- white "bussiness" land grabbers want land that the indains by right of "treaty" have ---so the white land grabbers tresspass upon it and cause "unrest" then demand that the US Military be brought in to "do" something about the indain "unrest" that breaks the treaty --the next thing you know the "trouble making" indains are rounded up and shipped of to some bleak hell hole and the lands been grabbed . -- old school land stealing 101.

  14. #14
    us
    Jan 2006
    Palm Harbor, FL
    excal / Fisher
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    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    Here is a web site for the crown from the tags, with some history. Still looking for more history on the crown itself. As for the tags themselves still researching.

    http://www.keouanui.org/Crown_lands
    here's some more history scoll down to Kalākaua Dynasty for Coat of Arms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Hawaii
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  15. #15
    Charter Member
    us
    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
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    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    as I thought its the hawaiian crown *

  16. #16
    um
    Dec 2007
    kihei maui
    xlt- surf master - tiger shark-sand shark
    83
    2 times

    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    wow you doing better than i am and i live here i was looking at the dime i found and thought the crown looked real close i put a pic of it in the what is it section under 1800s tags?? thanks for all the help

  17. #17
    Charter Member
    us
    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
    13,086
    18 times
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    possiibly burial spot ID tags attached to wooden crosses --- burail grounds were often next to a church -- year of death -- and number --- like 1876 burial number 111 --and 1880 burail number 230 -- being on wooden crosses once they rotted away only the ID tags would be left

    dog tags if there was a dog tag "tax" is a possiblity as well.

    on the big plantations that the robber baron types ran --where the "bosses" had hundreds if not thousands of workers -- they often used a "work chit system" -- metal chits that the workers carried as id's -- when they turned in the crops they picked they showed their chit to the "count boss" and got credited for the work "on the books "-- when they shopped at the company store they showed their chit to buy stuff -- if the amount "on the books" showed him as having credit --he could get stuff .

  18. #18

    Jun 2006
    Victoria & Corpus Christi Texas
    Xterra 705, Tejon, 1270, Stingray II & CZ-20
    517
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    I'm with Greg on these...look like old dog tax tags!!! Nice finds!

    http://www.pl8s.com/platestand-dogs.htm

  19. #19
    um
    Dec 2007
    kihei maui
    xlt- surf master - tiger shark-sand shark
    83
    2 times

    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    thanks for all the input i don't think they are grave site tags there in not enough room on the whole site to put over 6000 bodies even if they stacked them up and i was all the way on the other side way away from any graves and that is allot of dog tags for 1876 but the credit tags sound the most plausible I'm am hoping i can get to town and talk to someone at the library this weekend i will keep you posted thanks

  20. #20
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    My Find of a Lifetime!

    Oct 2006
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    Re: 1876 to 1885 tags for something any ideas

    Hawaii was Occupied by the US from the 1870's to the 1890's. Maybe it has something to do with travel throughout the islands. This auction site specializes in medals and tokens: http://www.exonumia.com/ You should contact them.

 

 
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