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Oct 25, 2009, 10:55 AM
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1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
I headed off to my little corner of history this morning for a few hours. After finding my first Colonial here yesterday, I was saying to myself "there is more". Not disapointed.......
The first hole of the morning was the axe head. Go figure, I had to carry that in my pouch for the next two hours. A little while later the small buckle showed up. The next keeper was the Tombac button. This one is a little different than any other that I have dug. The next target was Draped Bust #4 from the field! Once again just a whisper. Very deep, maybe ten inches. Right out of the ground in the best condition possible! I knew right away that I had a variety also, 1800, 80 over 79. Getting kinda used to finding these, so in my watch pocket it goes and back to swinging.
I searched for another hour and added the large flat button to the days keepers. On the walk through the field home, swinging wildly "as it always happens" I get a signal that is telling me possibly a copper cent, 30/32 on my minelab. pinpointed and out came the final find of the morning..... Massachusettes Civil War button? I think I am right.....
I am going to do a couple of posts. I took my camera with me today 
VPR
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Oct 25, 2009, 10:56 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
Beautiful drapped bust man
HH Jer
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Oct 25, 2009, 10:57 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
that is a beauty of a coin !!!!
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Oct 25, 2009, 10:59 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
More pics....
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Oct 25, 2009, 11:04 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
A few more...
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Oct 25, 2009, 11:10 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
Now there's my kind of a day, both a great button and a coin! I hope to be so lucky over the next two days!
I agree, you can't hope for better condition out of most dirt.
AMERICAN DIGGERS ON SPIKE: THE TRASH WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCRIMINATE OUT!
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Oct 25, 2009, 11:11 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
Great finds Packrat. Amazing relief on the back of that overdated large cent! The button looks like an Albert MS32 B.
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Oct 25, 2009, 11:11 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
My god thats the best dug Drape Bust large cent I"ve ever seen. And that button is friggin awesome...Gotta love scovill's.
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Oct 25, 2009, 11:13 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
Now there's my kind of a day, both a great button and a coin!  I hope to be so lucky over the next two days!
I agree, you can't hope for better condition out of most dirt.
I woud not worry if I were you. You seem to have " LUCKY " tatooed on your forehead 
VPR
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Oct 25, 2009, 11:14 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
 Originally Posted by VERMONTPACKRAT
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
Now there's my kind of a day, both a great button and a coin!  I hope to be so lucky over the next two days!
I agree, you can't hope for better condition out of most dirt.
I woud not worry if I were you. You seem to have " LUCKY " tatooed on your forehead
VPR
Please just don't wipe it off for two more days!
AMERICAN DIGGERS ON SPIKE: THE TRASH WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCRIMINATE OUT!
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Oct 25, 2009, 11:15 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
Beautiful finds! That button appears to be an Albert's MS 31. Nice!
Mike
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Oct 25, 2009, 11:16 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
 Originally Posted by johnnyi
Great finds Packrat. Amazing relief on the back of that overdated large cent! The button looks like an Albert MS32 B.
Am I right? Civil War? Is there any more info to know about this button?
Thank You for the help, VPR
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Oct 25, 2009, 11:26 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
"That button appears to be an Albert's MS 31. "
Brnn, check again, I believe the 31 is nearly flat and has tighter curve to the scroll then the 32?.
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Oct 25, 2009, 11:39 AM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
Very nice Draped Bust. I have one soaking in olive oil, but it has heavy wear on it.
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Oct 25, 2009, 12:00 PM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
VPR,those are awesome finds man!!
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Oct 25, 2009, 12:03 PM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
What a great field! The 1800 is one of eleven varieties that are overdates, I was hoping yours was anything but Sheldon 196, but it is a Sheldon 196. (The only variety that is Very Common of the eleven. ) http://www.largecents.net/collection/1800drbust.html
Your button, I have not looked at the front at all, just the backmark and a bit hard to say with 100% certainty, but it looks like the backmark of the one in Tice's book (Fig 6-5) that says 1860s-1870s. So it is possible a CW era button, but not certain based on that range of possible dates.
Don
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Oct 25, 2009, 12:13 PM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
What a great field! The 1800 is one of eleven varieties that are overdates, I was hoping yours was anything but Sheldon 196, but it is a Sheldon 196. (The only variety that is Very Common of the eleven.  ) http://www.largecents.net/collection/1800drbust.html
Your button, I have not looked at the front at all, just the backmark and a bit hard to say with 100% certainty, but it looks like the backmark of the one in Tice's book (Fig 6-5) that says 1860s-1870s. So it is possible a CW era button, but not certain based on that range of possible dates.
Don
Thank You Don. I was hopeing you would show up 
I was just now looking at PENNY WHIMSY !! 196 is what I was seeing too. Who cares what the variety is Look at the condition of this baby !!
I am out of peroxid right now The MRS. has gone on a mercy run for me 
I want to touch up a spot on both sides with a Q-tip and call it done.
I will post an "after" pic when it is done. In fact I will post all four 
VPR
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Oct 25, 2009, 12:26 PM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
 Originally Posted by johnnyi
Great finds Packrat. Amazing relief on the back of that overdated large cent! The button looks like an Albert MS32 B.
Jumped right out at me as well..SWEET DIGS!!!
HH
~Nash~
Whatever it is, it is valuable. If nothing else for the lesson learned or simply the experience of having been there.
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Oct 25, 2009, 12:46 PM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
Your coin really needs no more cleaning other than wet q-tips to remove what is left, don't overdue it where those blue/green areas are showing on the rim.
Yes, great detail, certain years had a better relief strike than others and evidently yours is one of them, I believe I have a 1798 that is similar in raised detail..
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Oct 25, 2009, 02:27 PM
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Re: 1800 Draped Bust LC, Mass. civil war button, And more from the hay field !!
Man, you are killing it up there. The detail on the LC is amazing. Great pics too...
The Mass. button is unbelievable as well...
Keep 'em coming !!!
Brian in MA
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