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  1. #1

    Apr 2008
    Tesoro Vaquero
    386

    First Roman Coin UPDATE New Discovery

    UPDATE;...Spent one man hour and two dog hours going over and around the area I found the Roman coin two days ago. The chestnut leaves are 4 inches thick, so I'm not getting the depth I would like, but still came up with something interesting only five paces uphill from the Roman coin hole. I have added two more pictures below of the find.

    It is bronze, and a rim piece of some sort of vessel or vase. It looks to be, I'm guessing/hoping/praying it also is Roman, as that would lend some good hope to find the "unmentionable" first on anybody's list. It came out of the ground pretty much as you see it, with no crud, decay, or whatever, with a light green patina on the inside side.

    Anybody here can identify it?

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    Frustrated, as Wifey took the car, I decided to tweek the Tesoro for some deeper hits on my own land that I have done relentlessly since August. Surprisingly, I got a few whatsits, a couple of old coins, and then a crusty unreadable coin, on land I've been over a couple of times.

    Dropped the crusty coin into some olive oil, waited, did some thumbnail rubbing, and I think, I hope, I got my oldest coin so far, a Roman. (My oldest to date is a silver circa 1600.) The crusty was only 5" down in undisturbed land.

    The first two pics are the coin out of the ground after a light rinse.
    The rest of the pics are "afters" in different angles. The back has not been cleaned , but it looks like a man standing with a staff (2nd to last pic).

    Not being able to get an ID from the internet, Romans being an endless-never-ending subject, I was hoping someone could help me date and identify this find.

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  2. #2
    us
    Mar 2007
    Utah
    Tesoro Tejon, Garrett Ace 350.
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    1 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    Nice find! Looks like a bronze Domitian Dupondius,that would be 81-98 AD,way to go my man! kane 23
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  3. #3

    Oct 2004
    N. San Diego area (Pic of my two best 'finds')
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    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    My WAG: Germanicus, who died in AD 19. I seem to read: AVG GE.... as in Augustus Germanicus.
    Don....

  4. #4

    Apr 2008
    Tesoro Vaquero
    386

    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    Quote Originally Posted by kane23
    Nice find! Looks like a bronze Domitian Dupondius,that would be 81-98 AD,way to go my man! kane 23
    Thanks Kane, I'm whooping and hollering on this end with your helpful great news! I just dropped 1500 years off my oldest coin find!!!

    I've spent a few months looking for a single, any condition, Roman coin here IN Italy, as I watched those Brits hoover them up day after day without even a care...

    Thanks,
    Goldnow


  5. #5
    Charter Member
    us
    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
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    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    dat is a for sure roman . now to hunt down which one -- try "roman forum" on line --its great to help id these buggers

    avg --is used in their coinage means the title "augustus" then their name -- think macs got it

  6. #6

    Apr 2008
    Tesoro Vaquero
    386

    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon
    My WAG: Germanicus, who died in AD 19. I seem to read: AVG GE.... as in Augustus Germanicus.
    Don....
    Don, This is getting better all the time.

    Now Augustus is a name I recognize.

    Thanks,
    Goldnow


  7. #7
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    Sgt Jim ................................... "Prince of Pennies"

    Sep 2005
    Chillin' in the Panhandle (Leon County)
    Tesoro Cortes; Garrett GTAx 1000, Bounty Hunter Tracker 2D/707 and a pair of Tracker II models
    627

    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    Looks like Kane called it correctly.......

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  8. #8

    Oct 2004
    N. San Diego area (Pic of my two best 'finds')
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    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    Augustus, in this context, is not the name of a particular person, but the title bestowed on one who is the emperor.

  9. #9
    Charter Member
    us
    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
    13,086
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    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    yep --augustus --as in title --- AVG

  10. #10
    Charter Member
    us
    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
    13,086
    18 times
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    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    must say the coin looks to be a match to kanes id however.

  11. #11

    Oct 2004
    N. San Diego area (Pic of my two best 'finds')
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    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    "GERM" can also be part of the title to other emperors, designating they were defeaters of the Germans.
    Don.....

  12. #12
    Charter Member
    us
    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
    13,086
    18 times
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    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    yes but look at the location of the marking and overall profile of the head

  13. #13

    Apr 2008
    Tesoro Vaquero
    386

    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    Quote Originally Posted by Cybercop106
    Looks like Kane called it correctly.......

    The profile is a bit different on mine, as well as I see crown points radiating from his head on mine.

    Should I clean further? How?, or leave it as is?

  14. #14
    Charter Member
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    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
    13,086
    18 times
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    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    ah crown points later time frame !! the early ones use laurel wreaths

  15. #15
    us
    Jul 2004
    Shelbyville or any yard where the owner will let me detect!
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    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    leave as is !!
    congrats on an awesomely old coin !!
    ALLEN

  16. #16
    Charter Member
    us
    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
    13,086
    18 times
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    its your coin but over cleaning will screw up the patina

  17. #17

    Apr 2008
    Tesoro Vaquero
    386

    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    I'll jut touch up the reverse to equal the same patina as the obverse, using the olive oil and thumbnail method as I did on the front.

    Anyway , thanks you guys. You people really make this hobby special with all your support. I'd be lost without Treasurenet,.... sometimes.

    I know many have gold, etc. on the top of their wish-list, as I do, of course, but you have no idea how this coin, after so long looking for one, gives me the same thrill.

  18. #18

    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please



    I think what you have there is a coin of Nero, AE Dupondius......54-68AD Radiate bust right, can't make out much of the legend

    SS
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  19. #19

    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    Quote Originally Posted by kane23
    Nice find! Looks like a bronze Domitian Dupondius,that would be 81-98 AD,way to go my man! kane 23
    Agreed, I can see the faint DOMIT

    http://time-lines.co.uk/domitian-mon...3-18185-0.html
    Might be the one above, if not it is a Domitian Dupondus or AS
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  20. #20
    Charter Member
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    Sgt Jim ................................... "Prince of Pennies"

    Sep 2005
    Chillin' in the Panhandle (Leon County)
    Tesoro Cortes; Garrett GTAx 1000, Bounty Hunter Tracker 2D/707 and a pair of Tracker II models
    627

    Re: First Roman Coin (I hope) ID Please

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher


    I think what you have there is a coin of Nero, AE Dupondius......54-68AD Radiate bust right, can't make out much of the legend

    SS

    Yeah, I can see the faint points of the crown, however the orientation of the letters don't match this coin. Run a line from the point of the chin through the ear hole and it bisects the A and V of AVG on goldnow's coin. Doing the same on the coin above puts that same line between the S and A of CAESAR. Additionally, the chin protrudes more and there's no 'low forehead' top knot on goldnow's. But we're gettin' there............
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    THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WAS NOT A CURE FOR AMERICA'S PROBLEMS, IT WAS A SYMPTOM OF THE DISEASE!!!!

 

 
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