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  1. #1
    us
    Oct 2009
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Why do they signal so high?

    I braved the cold weather today and got to meet wildbill for a hunt. Old park that I know has some silver hiding in it. Very last target was coming in as a dime at 9 inches on my E-Trac. I dug down six and it was still in the hole. I dug down to 8 inches and it signal right under my pinpointer. I could already see the silver rim in my mind. 9 inches deep... perfect dime reading... aluminum tax token! Why the heck do these things register so high and get my hope up like that?

    It was still a fun hunt, but I won't be happy until I pull more silver from there. I was really hoping WildBill would find one today.
    Check out my treasure hunting videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSilverFiend

  2. #2
    us
    Jan 2012
    Binghamton, NY
    ATPro
    57
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Why do they signal so high?

    tax tokens are cool. but I know the feeling

  3. #3
    us
    Nov 2008
    Pikes Peak
    Garrett Gti 2500, Garrett Gta 350, Whites IDX Pro, AutoMax V2 Pinpointer
    590
    2 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: Why do they signal so high?

    Everytime I find one,I just tell myself,,,, if it had been a saloon token ,I would have found it !! ,,,, bout all ya can do

  4. #4
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    CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER

    Jun 2006
    Moonlight and Magnolias
    Fisher 1266-X and Tesoro Silver µMax
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    29 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (3)
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: Why do they signal so high?

    I don't know. My lifestyle is digging everything that reads foil or higher.

    But I do really like your avatar photo.


    -Buckles
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Three 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  5. #5
    Charter Member
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    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
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    Re: Why do they signal so high?

    its due to how a metal detector "reads" what its found -- via "electrical conductivity " -- you see differant metals have differant levels of electrical conductivity -- however some metals "mimic" one another -- a pull tab made of aluminum has just about the same amount of "electrical conductivity" as a gold ring * -- a squashed deep aluminum can has about the same amount as a silver 50 cent peice -and a aluminum tax token from the 30's about the same as a silver dime -- some folks actually collect those tokens and might trade you a silver dime for it --so not a total loss.

    the depth guide is also "guessing" being it set up for coin sized items -- bigger items might read as "shallower' and small stuff as "deeper" than the actual range .

    basically the machine is make a semi educated "guess" based upon its programing that this "reading" means this and that reading means that. --some machines are better "guessers' than others --and often they cost more $$$

  6. #6
    us
    Feb 2008
    Kentucky
    White's MXT; backup - BH Pioneer 505
    536
    1 times
    Prospecting and coin shooting

    Re: Why do they signal so high?

    Tax token is better than can slaw!
    Lookin' and pickin'!

  7. #7
    us
    Oct 2009
    943
    50 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Why do they signal so high?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lookin
    Tax token is better than can slaw!
    Yes that is true!

    The strange thing is that a similar sized peice of can slaw would ring much lower on the VDI scale. I think it may have to do with the fact that it's round with a hole in the middle. The E-Trac seems to have a real love for things with that shape. Has anyone else noticed this?
    Check out my treasure hunting videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSilverFiend

  8. #8
    Charter Member
    us
    ~The Cane Field Bandits~

    Oct 2007
    Denham Springs, Louisiana
    Tesoro Cortes, Gray Ghost Headphones
    1,034
    4 times
    Relic Hunting

    Re: Why do they signal so high?

    I recently dug a 30s era tax token. It was in an area where we find a lot of civil war mini balls and round balls. The token rang in the same as one of those bullets. It was refreshing to find it amongst the other stuff. Dig everything......tax tokens are cool Shane
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A Dateless One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    FOUR Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), 1839-O Half Dime, 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  9. #9
    us
    Jun 2010
    Illinois-St. Louis Metro
    Explorer Se Pro White's IDX pro
    65
    1 times

    Re: Why do they signal so high?



    The strange thing is that a similar sized peice of can slaw would ring much lower on the VDI scale. I think it may have to do with the fact that it's round with a hole in the middle. The E-Trac seems to have a real love for things with that shape. Has anyone else noticed this?
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    I think the shape has alot to do with the higher reading. Washers, brass and iron ring up good on my Explorer. Bent nails,etc. all sound different than the same material in a decent shape. As far as tokens, alot sound just lower than a coin and come in between pull tab and coin. I always dig these signals because Id rather dig a token over a coin most of the time. Holed tokens always sound great.

 

 

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