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  1. #1
    So many colonial sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
    (below) 1786 Vermont copper. Found August 2007
    Whites DFX (with 4x6 shooter DD coil and 12" spider coil)/Whites coinmaster 6000 Di
    2,518
    Banner Finds (1)

    1786 Vermont colonial copper

    This is actually my first post on this forum but I've been checking it out for a few months now. I'm kinda new to this game. I used to use a metal detector back in the 80's when I was a teenager, then, mysteriously, I forgot about it. Last year my friend got a new detector and I remembered how much fun it used to be and wondered to myself why I ever stopped. I ended up getting one myself and instantly became addicted to the hobby again. Now I'll get to the point. Last week I ran into a friend that I hadn't seen in about ten years and we were talking trying to catch up when he mentioned that he had just purchased a new house (New to him that is) It was a very old farmhouse in a rural New York town Near where we grew up. I immediately steered the conversation to metal detecting and secured permission to hunt the property. Now I'll skip to the good part. After searching for a while and not finding anything great I hit a good signal a pretty good distance away from the house in an area that apparently had been a cornfield at some point but was now mowed and part of the lawn. Imagine seeing this. didn't know what it was at first...thought it may have been a button with the shank broken off where the eye is on the back of the coin. Oh yeah, one more thing..I'm not very computer literate and I just got my digital camera recently so I hope these pictures come out OK....
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    Large copper total for 2008 --7
    1797 Draped Bust large cent 
    1809 Classic Head half cent  
    1787 New Jersey copper (Maris 63-s variety)
    1845 Braided hair large cent (holed)
    1835 hard times token (Walsh's General Store)
    No detail coppers--2

  2. #2
    us
    Mar 2006
    Massachusetts
    Mxt 6x10 coil Massachusetts
    3,941

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    holy holy holy smokes !!!!!!!!!!! awesome find there.....
    keenest hobby ever

  3. #3
    Charter Member
    us
    Oct 2005
    Cleveland, Ohio
    DFX
    1,107
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Boy did that coin hold up GREAT! Fantastic, gotta go back now and see what else you can find. Welcome to the site btw! HH!

  4. #4

    May 2007
    Upstate New York - USA
    Minelab Explorer SE
    44

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Very sweet coin, I just started detecting this year and the oldest find has been 1839. What an outstanding coin. Any idea of the value ? (never sell it - way too cool)
    "fix the holes and make nice with everyone you meet"

  5. #5

    Apr 2007
    North Carolina
    3,500

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Fantastic coin
    That man is a success who has lived well, laughed often and loved much.......   Robert Lewis Stevenson

  6. #6
    So many colonial sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
    (below) 1786 Vermont copper. Found August 2007
    Whites DFX (with 4x6 shooter DD coil and 12" spider coil)/Whites coinmaster 6000 Di
    2,518
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFarces
    Very sweet coin, I just started detecting this year and the oldest find has been 1839. What an outstanding coin. Any idea of the value ? (never sell it - way too cool)
    Thanks man. I still cant believe it when I think about it. I checked it in the redbook under the colonial coins section. G- 250.00 VG- 500 F- 900 VF- 2400 EF- 4200....we'll stop right there because of the two scratches on the front of the coin. Condition will drop alot due to those. I did not put them there. You can see the dark green patina fills in the scratches as well. Maybe that coin got hit once or twice by a plow when that lawn used to be a cornfield. Thanks for the reply and happy hunting. I think the coin is probably worth somewhere between 600 and 1000 bucks. I guess that pays off the detector...Lol....
    Large copper total for 2008 --7
    1797 Draped Bust large cent 
    1809 Classic Head half cent  
    1787 New Jersey copper (Maris 63-s variety)
    1845 Braided hair large cent (holed)
    1835 hard times token (Walsh's General Store)
    No detail coppers--2

  7. #7
    us
    Feb 2007
    The Constituition State
    Ace250
    998

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Welcome to Tnet Evolution...thats a great coin you got there..what a find...Congrats...
    The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry... - Robert Burns


    I miss the days that they made toys that could kill a kid.

  8. #8
    us
    wolf pack!!!

    Sep 2006
    Texas
    Minlabe SE, ace 250, fisher 1280x
    4,506
    Banner Finds (2)
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    The redbook also says "most Vermont coppers are struck on poor or defective Planchets. Well struck coins on smooth full planchets command higher prices" It is also called a "landscape copper". That is one sweet find for someone just starting out. Welcome to the forum.
    Leave no stone unturned.

  9. #9
    us
    Pulltabs = Gold. Returned to owner 1946

    Apr 2005
    Poughkeepsie, N.Y.
    691

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Very nice. Good job!!!

  10. #10
    us
    Apr 2007
    West Michigan
    White's M6, Bullseye II, Ace250
    1,935

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Very very nice coin! Welcome to TNet. Its nice to see you guys in NY finding some good stuff, I was just there and got skunked on old stuff (wasn't really there long enough to do any good).

  11. #11

    Apr 2007
    Michigan
    White's DFX w. D2 or 5.3, Sunray DX-1, Lesche Digger
    642
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Pages 85 and 86 of the 2008 Red Book, "Vermontensium 1786".
    G - 250
    VG - 500
    F - 900
    VF - 2400
    EF - 4200
    AU - 9000

    I haven't yet located their criteria for grading Colonial and Post-Colonial issues, but as outstanding (!) as your coin looks (and the fact that they say well-struck examples fetch more money), I'd hazard an uneducated guess that your coin is somewhere between F and AU. I sure don't know where, though.

    I'm sure some people here can direct you to sources that will narrow down the accurate valuation of it.

    AND NOW I HATE YOU 13 ORIGINAL COLONIES "HOME TOADS" ALL THE MORE...

    Incredible find, congratulations!

  12. #12
    Charter Member
    us
    Jun 2005
    Chippewa Falls
    Whites Eagle SL II, Whites PRL-1, (3) Whites DFX's, Whites Coinmaster 4G, Whites Silver Eagle, 2010 Whites Coinmaster, Fisher 1212-X, Fisher 1225-X
    588
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Welcome to the site. All I can say is awsome, just awsome find

  13. #13
    Facilitator of Happiness

    Apr 2007
    East Greenbush NY
    Spectrum XLT/Troy Shadow X2/Ace 250
    531
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    I found one just like that years ago..I sold it for around 3 grand when my car broke down. I do not remember fully but I do not think my was much better than yours...If not the same condition. GREAT FIND.

    outraged-

  14. #14
    us
    Apr 2007
    Austin, TX
    Whites Eagle Spectrum, Compass X-100, Whites Beach Hunter ID, 2 Whites Spectrum XLT's
    3,112

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    That coin is in fantastic condition, a find of a life time. I'll bet you're really hooked again now. WAY TO GO!!!!
    It's better to be thought a fool, then open your mouth and remove all doubt.
    The definition of average is the best of the worst, and the worst of the best.

  15. #15
    So many colonial sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
    (below) 1786 Vermont copper. Found August 2007
    Whites DFX (with 4x6 shooter DD coil and 12" spider coil)/Whites coinmaster 6000 Di
    2,518
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Thanks alot for the support and the replies guys. Even if it is raining here I still feel like I vicariously got out that day just by checking in and seeing what everyone else turned up that day. I really enjoy the site and will be making some more posts in the near future to catch everyone up with what I have found in the year and a half I've been detecting. Only 4 more coppers (coppas) and I'll catch up with Kirk for the year. (not very likely)
    Large copper total for 2008 --7
    1797 Draped Bust large cent 
    1809 Classic Head half cent  
    1787 New Jersey copper (Maris 63-s variety)
    1845 Braided hair large cent (holed)
    1835 hard times token (Walsh's General Store)
    No detail coppers--2

  16. #16

    Jul 2007
    central wa st
    garrett ace 250
    440

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    wow, what a find, great old coin, good job,

  17. #17
    Charter Member
    CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER

    Jun 2006
    Moonlight and Magnolias
    Fisher 1266-X and Tesoro Silver µMax
    12,248
    25 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (3)
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    An EXCELLENT find!!! Not to often that one sees one of those on here. Seen some NJ coppers, and maybe a NY or two. This is a well-struck, high grade example, regardless of dug condition it should be worth quite a bit.

    I THINK THIS ONE IS WITHOUT A DOUBT BANNER MATERIAL!

    Regards,

    Buckleboy
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  18. #18
    Facilitator of Happiness

    Apr 2007
    East Greenbush NY
    Spectrum XLT/Troy Shadow X2/Ace 250
    531
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    An EXCELLENT find!!! Not to often that one sees one of those on here. Seen some NJ coppers, and maybe a NY or two. This is a well-struck, high grade example, regardless of dug condition it should be worth quite a bit.

    I THINK THIS ONE IS WITHOUT A DOUBT BANNER MATERIAL!

    Regards,

    Buckleboy
    Agreed!!!

  19. #19
    us
    May 2007
    Western Colorado
    5,871
    2 times

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    VERY well dug and washed.

    I love old copper especially when it's like this.

    Welcome to TNet and Good job.

    We expect more like this
    Don't let us down, LOL

    OD
    "Everybody dies"
    "But not everybody lives."

  20. #20

    Jan 2004
    North Carolina
    White's Classic SLII and the E series DFX and the Minelab ExplorerII
    1,974

    Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper

    Wonderful first post!

    Congratulations on the Vermont Coppa!




    Ridley

 

 
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