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Aug 07, 2007, 08:16 PM
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So many colonial sites to hunt....so little time.
1786 Vermont colonial copper
This is actually my first post on this forum but I've been checking it out for a few months now. I'm kinda new to this game. I used to use a metal detector back in the 80's when I was a teenager, then, mysteriously, I forgot about it. Last year my friend got a new detector and I remembered how much fun it used to be and wondered to myself why I ever stopped. I ended up getting one myself and instantly became addicted to the hobby again. Now I'll get to the point. Last week I ran into a friend that I hadn't seen in about ten years and we were talking trying to catch up when he mentioned that he had just purchased a new house (New to him that is) It was a very old farmhouse in a rural New York town Near where we grew up. I immediately steered the conversation to metal detecting and secured permission to hunt the property. Now I'll skip to the good part. After searching for a while and not finding anything great I hit a good signal a pretty good distance away from the house in an area that apparently had been a cornfield at some point but was now mowed and part of the lawn. Imagine seeing this. didn't know what it was at first...thought it may have been a button with the shank broken off where the eye is on the back of the coin. Oh yeah, one more thing..I'm not very computer literate and I just got my digital camera recently so I hope these pictures come out OK....
Large copper total for 2008 --7
1797 Draped Bust large cent
1809 Classic Head half cent
1787 New Jersey copper (Maris 63-s variety)
1845 Braided hair large cent (holed)
1835 hard times token (Walsh's General Store)
No detail coppers--2
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Aug 07, 2007, 08:21 PM
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Aug 07, 2007, 08:36 PM
#3
Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
Boy did that coin hold up GREAT! Fantastic, gotta go back now and see what else you can find. Welcome to the site btw! HH!
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Aug 07, 2007, 08:49 PM
#4
Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
Very sweet coin, I just started detecting this year and the oldest find has been 1839. What an outstanding coin. Any idea of the value ? (never sell it - way too cool)
"fix the holes and make nice with everyone you meet"
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Aug 07, 2007, 08:57 PM
#5
Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
Fantastic coin
That man is a success who has lived well, laughed often and loved much....... Robert Lewis Stevenson
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Aug 07, 2007, 09:11 PM
#6
So many colonial sites to hunt....so little time.
Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
 Originally Posted by SpecialFarces
Very sweet coin, I just started detecting this year and the oldest find has been 1839. What an outstanding coin. Any idea of the value ? (never sell it - way too cool)
Thanks man. I still cant believe it when I think about it. I checked it in the redbook under the colonial coins section. G- 250.00 VG- 500 F- 900 VF- 2400 EF- 4200....we'll stop right there because of the two scratches on the front of the coin. Condition will drop alot due to those. I did not put them there. You can see the dark green patina fills in the scratches as well. Maybe that coin got hit once or twice by a plow when that lawn used to be a cornfield. Thanks for the reply and happy hunting. I think the coin is probably worth somewhere between 600 and 1000 bucks. I guess that pays off the detector...Lol....
Large copper total for 2008 --7
1797 Draped Bust large cent
1809 Classic Head half cent
1787 New Jersey copper (Maris 63-s variety)
1845 Braided hair large cent (holed)
1835 hard times token (Walsh's General Store)
No detail coppers--2
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Aug 07, 2007, 09:14 PM
#7
Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
Welcome to Tnet Evolution...thats a great coin you got there..what a find...Congrats...
The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry... - Robert Burns
I miss the days that they made toys that could kill a kid.
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Aug 07, 2007, 09:16 PM
#8
 wolf pack!!!
Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
The redbook also says "most Vermont coppers are struck on poor or defective Planchets. Well struck coins on smooth full planchets command higher prices" It is also called a "landscape copper". That is one sweet find for someone just starting out. Welcome to the forum.
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Aug 07, 2007, 09:18 PM
#9
 Pulltabs = Gold. Returned to owner 1946
Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
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Aug 07, 2007, 09:20 PM
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Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
Very very nice coin! Welcome to TNet. Its nice to see you guys in NY finding some good stuff, I was just there and got skunked on old stuff (wasn't really there long enough to do any good).
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Aug 07, 2007, 09:25 PM
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Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
Pages 85 and 86 of the 2008 Red Book, "Vermontensium 1786".
G - 250
VG - 500
F - 900
VF - 2400
EF - 4200
AU - 9000
I haven't yet located their criteria for grading Colonial and Post-Colonial issues, but as outstanding (!) as your coin looks (and the fact that they say well-struck examples fetch more money), I'd hazard an uneducated guess that your coin is somewhere between F and AU. I sure don't know where, though.
I'm sure some people here can direct you to sources that will narrow down the accurate valuation of it.
AND NOW I HATE YOU 13 ORIGINAL COLONIES "HOME TOADS" ALL THE MORE...
Incredible find, congratulations!
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Aug 07, 2007, 09:27 PM
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Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
Welcome to the site. All I can say is awsome, just awsome find
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Aug 07, 2007, 09:52 PM
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Facilitator of Happiness
Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
I found one just like that years ago..I sold it for around 3 grand when my car broke down. I do not remember fully but I do not think my was much better than yours...If not the same condition. GREAT FIND.
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Aug 07, 2007, 10:02 PM
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Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
That coin is in fantastic condition, a find of a life time. I'll bet you're really hooked again now. WAY TO GO!!!!
It's better to be thought a fool, then open your mouth and remove all doubt.
The definition of average is the best of the worst, and the worst of the best.
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Aug 07, 2007, 10:21 PM
#15
So many colonial sites to hunt....so little time.
Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
Thanks alot for the support and the replies guys. Even if it is raining here I still feel like I vicariously got out that day just by checking in and seeing what everyone else turned up that day. I really enjoy the site and will be making some more posts in the near future to catch everyone up with what I have found in the year and a half I've been detecting. Only 4 more coppers (coppas) and I'll catch up with Kirk for the year. (not very likely)
Large copper total for 2008 --7
1797 Draped Bust large cent
1809 Classic Head half cent
1787 New Jersey copper (Maris 63-s variety)
1845 Braided hair large cent (holed)
1835 hard times token (Walsh's General Store)
No detail coppers--2
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Aug 07, 2007, 10:46 PM
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Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
wow, what a find, great old coin, good job,
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Aug 07, 2007, 11:09 PM
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CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
An EXCELLENT find!!! Not to often that one sees one of those on here. Seen some NJ coppers, and maybe a NY or two. This is a well-struck, high grade example, regardless of dug condition it should be worth quite a bit.
I THINK THIS ONE IS WITHOUT A DOUBT BANNER MATERIAL!
Regards,
Buckleboy
Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
TEN Half Reales:
1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
1836 8 Reales
A 17?? One Real
1819 Token/Jeton
Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
1892 Barber Dime
1918 Walking Liberty Half
1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
Military Relics:
Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
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Aug 07, 2007, 11:21 PM
#18
Facilitator of Happiness
Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
 Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
An EXCELLENT find!!! Not to often that one sees one of those on here. Seen some NJ coppers, and maybe a NY or two. This is a well-struck, high grade example, regardless of dug condition it should be worth quite a bit.
I THINK THIS ONE IS WITHOUT A DOUBT BANNER MATERIAL!
Regards,
Buckleboy
Agreed!!!
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Aug 07, 2007, 11:28 PM
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Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
VERY well dug and washed.
I love old copper especially when it's like this.
Welcome to TNet and Good job.
We expect more like this
Don't let us down, LOL
OD
"Everybody dies"
"But not everybody lives."
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Aug 08, 2007, 12:43 AM
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Re: 1786 Vermont colonial copper
Wonderful first post!
Congratulations on the Vermont Coppa!
Ridley
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