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  1. #1
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    Even further back in time, but is it Reale (Pistareen) Updated 12/24 New pics

    Wow each week my coil seems to be swinging over the right spots and I get older and older coins. Last week it was the 2 cent piece, 1864. While I was sure that was as old as I would get for a while, boy was I wrong. While out today at a site where nearby are the remains of a home foundation, I found this on my first swing. Beat the 2 cent piece by 127 years! Oddly It was all I found all day.

    But is it real? It has the date 1737 on it and appears to have been cut in half and re-joined. Can anyone tell me anymore about it? I know nothing about Spanish Reales.

    Thanks for looking and Merry Christmas.

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  2. #2
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    Larry

    Jan 2007
    ~Florida~
    Ace 150, centech pinpointer, Chinese Viper Underwater detector
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    Hey

    You luicky Dog!!! U bet your coil its for reale!!!!! You know that it is my one goal before I die to find one of those

    I see its a very very merry christmas!!! Congrats!!

    Larry

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  3. #3
    Kas
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    Jan 2007
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    That's an awesome coin in great condition.
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  4. #4
    So many colonial sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
    (below) 1786 Vermont copper. Found August 2007
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    If it is genuine its an awesome find. I've never seen a coin that was cut and then fused back together again. Big congrats and happy holidays.
    Large copper total for 2008 --7
    1797 Draped Bust large cent 
    1809 Classic Head half cent  
    1787 New Jersey copper (Maris 63-s variety)
    1845 Braided hair large cent (holed)
    1835 hard times token (Walsh's General Store)
    No detail coppers--2

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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    I know they used to cut them in half. The weight of silver was more important than the coin. It looks like two different coins put together. Not sure why they did this. Very interesting. They both look real

    I hate a good start. When ever me & Dad get off to a very bad start we say - " Good Start".

    I think this needs more study with the experts. I would record it.
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  6. #6

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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    i would wager that its real, but it looks to me like two different coins joined together. i do know that these coins were commonly cut into pieces to make change. very cool and interesting find!
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  7. #7

    Mar 2005
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    I know they used to cut them in half. The weight of silver was more important than the coin. It looks like two different coins put together. Not sure why they did this. Very interesting. They both look real

    I hate a good start. When ever me & Dad get off to a very bad start we say - " Good Start".
    haha beat me to it!
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  8. #8
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    Mar 2007
    SE Virginia
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    I know they used to cut them in half. The weight of silver was more important than the coin. It looks like two different coins put together. Not sure why they did this. Very interesting. They both look real

    I hate a good start. When ever me & Dad get off to a very bad start we say - " Good Start".
    Wow thanks for pointing that out. I had seen that the lines did not match up but did not put 2 and 2 together.

  9. #9
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    Apr 2007
    Southern CA
    Minelab Explorer SE; X-1 Target Probe; Pro Coil, 6x8 SEF, Coiltek Platypus Elliptical, Sunray X8, Expl. 1050 coils
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    Wow, that is an interesting find. Definitely looks like two different coins fused together.

    You just never know what you're going to find with one swing of the coil.

    HH,
    CAPTN SE
    Dan

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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    Without a doubt two seperate coins but I am wondering about the blueish colors I see, make sure it is not silver plated. I hope that is dirt I see on certain areas and not a base metal.

    Nice find either way, very unusual.

    Don
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true.  For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

  11. #11
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    Semper Fi!

    Jan 2007
    Indiana
    Minelab Explorer XS-2, Garrett Ace 250
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    Sweet old find and congrats on your two Reale halves!! I'd like to know that piece of history!!
    "Two things are infinite, the Universe and Human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the Universe"
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  12. #12
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    SE Virginia
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    Quote Originally Posted by Don in South Jersey
    Without a doubt two seperate coins but I am wondering about the blueish colors I see, make sure it is not silver plated. I hope that is dirt I see on certain areas and not a base metal.

    Nice find either way, very unusual.

    Don
    Is there a way I can test if it is silver plated. It sounds like the other silver coins I have but that might not mean anything.


  13. #13

    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    Quote Originally Posted by Madmardigan
    Quote Originally Posted by Don in South Jersey
    Without a doubt two seperate coins but I am wondering about the blueish colors I see, make sure it is not silver plated. I hope that is dirt I see on certain areas and not a base metal.

    Nice find either way, very unusual.

    Don
    Is there a way I can test if it is silver plated. It sounds like the other silver coins I have but that might not mean anything.

    You can get a cheap silver testing kit.

    I think the discolouring is from the join. ie the metal they welded it with.

    The discolouring will come off with CAREFUL cleaning.
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  14. #14
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    Jan 2005
    Seymour Johnson AFB NC
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    Very cool,nice find for sure!!
    God and country.

  15. #15
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by Madmardigan
    Quote Originally Posted by Don in South Jersey
    Without a doubt two seperate coins but I am wondering about the blueish colors I see, make sure it is not silver plated. I hope that is dirt I see on certain areas and not a base metal.

    Nice find either way, very unusual.

    Don
    Is there a way I can test if it is silver plated. It sounds like the other silver coins I have but that might not mean anything.

    You can get a cheap silver testing kit.

    I think the discolouring is from the join. ie the metal they welded it with.

    The discolouring will come off with CAREFUL cleaning.
    Thanks for the info.

    Yeah I kind of thought the discolouring may be from the metal they used as well, but have never seen anything like this so I'm not really sure.

  16. #16

    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    Quote Originally Posted by Madmardigan
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by Madmardigan
    Quote Originally Posted by Don in South Jersey
    Without a doubt two seperate coins but I am wondering about the blueish colors I see, make sure it is not silver plated. I hope that is dirt I see on certain areas and not a base metal.

    Nice find either way, very unusual.

    Don
    Is there a way I can test if it is silver plated. It sounds like the other silver coins I have but that might not mean anything.

    You can get a cheap silver testing kit.

    I think the discolouring is from the join. ie the metal they welded it with.

    The discolouring will come off with CAREFUL cleaning.
    Thanks for the info.

    Yeah I kind of thought the discolouring may be from the metal they used as well, but have never seen anything like this so I'm not really sure.
    I'm sure they are real. Be careful with how you treat it as it is a truely historic & important piece.

    The more I think about it................................

    THIS SHOULD BE ON THE BANNER
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  17. #17
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    I'll send someone over to take a look

    It certainly MIGHT be banner worthy! VERY COOL!

    Congrats!

    Marc

  18. #18
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    Dec 2006
    Northeast Florida
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    They did not have welders back then. Things were forged together (smashed until the hot molecules came together), riveted or soldered. I believe this was silver soldered and the blue green is from the soldering material. Why did they do that? One can only guess. Maybe for the horse parking meter.

    TE

  19. #19
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    Larry

    Jan 2007
    ~Florida~
    Ace 150, centech pinpointer, Chinese Viper Underwater detector
    414

    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    where exactly did you find it? city and state?
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  20. #20

    Jul 2007
    Maryland
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    Re: Even further back in time, but is it Reale

    FANTASTIC find!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I would mess my drawers if I pulled that out of
    the ground!
    Ty

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