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Sep 28, 2008, 08:22 PM
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"Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife..Restoration Finished
In June I found a piece of a pocketknife at a one room schoolhouse site showing a figure with the words "Our Lamented" on it.
There were several suggestions on the "what is it" forum that it may be Abe Lincoln and I have to give a lot of credit to Bigcypresshunter because he actually suggested that the other piece to this pocketknife may say "president".
Bigcypresshunter, you were right on!!! I revisited the area tonight and the first piece i dug was the bottom half of the side plate that said "president" and knew exactly what it was as soon as i saw it...I swung over the hole again,got another strong signal and got the other side plate intact that says "Our Union Is Preserved" !!
Thought you might like to see the last pieces of the puzzle come together... Thanks for havin a look!
Jerry
UPDATE: I think Abe is a little more presentable now. I simply used some hobby wood to take up the space that the blade or blades would have occupied. I was able to salvage the entire top pin and the head of the pin below Abe's left shoulder. The bottom pin is a cut off nail. Turns out this pocketknife was made of all brass except for the blade. Would the sideplates have been cast or stamped i wonder?
Lincoln was assassinated on April 14th,1865 just five days after Lee's surrender at Appomattox Court House. I'm sure our country was still in a terrible state of mourning when this knife was being produced. I wonder if it was therapeutic for the craftsman who designed it? My research has turned up nothing about this knife. Anyone have any suggestions for how I could find out more details about it? Thanks for all your interest!! HH, Jerry
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Sep 28, 2008, 08:30 PM
#2
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
Very cool, glad you found the rest!!!
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Sep 28, 2008, 08:33 PM
#3
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
That is one outstanding relic.. How many of *these* are there around? Websearch turn up anything?
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Sep 28, 2008, 08:44 PM
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CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
HECK YES!
I LOVE it when research, intuition, and online discussion are proven in the field.
That is an Awesome find, Jerry.
-Buckles
Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
TEN Half Reales:
1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
1836 8 Reales
A 17?? One Real
1819 Token/Jeton
Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
1892 Barber Dime
1918 Walking Liberty Half
1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
Military Relics:
Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
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Sep 28, 2008, 08:49 PM
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Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
Does anybody know how many were made or by what
company? that is a really neat find. Jimbob
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Sep 28, 2008, 09:05 PM
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CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
 Originally Posted by jimbob450
Does anybody know how many were made or by what
company? that is a really neat find. Jimbob
I have tried and can't find any info on those... could be a Valuable find.
Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
TEN Half Reales:
1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
1836 8 Reales
A 17?? One Real
1819 Token/Jeton
Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
1892 Barber Dime
1918 Walking Liberty Half
1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
Military Relics:
Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
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Sep 28, 2008, 09:07 PM
#7
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
Nice find Jerry
Enjoying the "Good Life" in SoCal
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Sep 28, 2008, 09:10 PM
#8
 wolf pack!!!
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
That is like the coolest dug pocket knife iv seen Beats my pewter keen kutter to pieces, i hope to hear more about it.
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Sep 28, 2008, 10:16 PM
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Sep 29, 2008, 04:09 AM
#10
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
Nice to put a puzzle together, especially a historical puzzle! HH, Mike
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Sep 29, 2008, 06:40 AM
#11
 Hunt, kneel, dig, pray
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
Great find Jerry and did some research and nothing - good find there I think.
SKD
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SoreKneesDayton
Whites M-6
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Sep 29, 2008, 06:54 AM
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Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
wow! i remember that post!
i would be buzzing
Who needs Cartwheel Pennies anyway?
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Sep 29, 2008, 08:14 AM
#13
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
Thanks for the folow up. Very interesting find. Congrats.
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Sep 29, 2008, 08:28 AM
#14
AUCTIONEER
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
That is too cool! Very awesome find indeed!!
HH,
Ramapirate
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Sep 29, 2008, 03:29 PM
#15
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
GREAT FIND.
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Sep 29, 2008, 03:43 PM
#16
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
Jerry,
That is so cool that you found all the pieces. Anything with Abe on it is #1 in my book. Very neat and unusual piece.
Hopefully we'll hear more about it. 
Congrats to you,
MM
Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
Civil War best finds:
*NC officers belt buckle
*CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
*Eagle Sword Belt Plate
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Sep 29, 2008, 04:17 PM
#17
 HOLD FAST
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
I second that - BANNER!!! Jerry - that is certainly one of the coolest finds yet that I've seen here. Buckle is right - that could be a very valuable piece...
"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere"
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Sep 29, 2008, 06:50 PM
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Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife... "Our Lamented" Revisited
Thanks for all your comments and banner suggestions!! I'm thrilled with this little piece of history and have decided to put some TLC in to a restoration of sorts. I don't plan to add a new knife blade but I think I can make it presentable as a whole piece. It may take me a few days. Here are the first steps...
Jerry
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Sep 29, 2008, 08:14 PM
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Sep 29, 2008, 09:10 PM
#20
 HOLD FAST
Re: "Our Union is Preserved" Pocketknife..Restoration in Progress....
Creepy how Lincoln's face looks like a skull in the last pic now...
and yes, i still say BANNER...
"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere"
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