Coal Company scrip experts??

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Doesn't appear to be listed in either of Edkins' coal scrip books, or in Dodrill's coal company stores book.

I have seen these tokens posted as unknown or unattributed on another forum.
 

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PBK said:
Doesn't appear to be listed in either of Edkins' coal scrip books, or in Dodrill's coal company stores book.

I have seen these tokens posted as unknown or unattributed on another forum.
Yes, I could find nothing on it, either. Thanks for the feedback. Guess they will have to remain a mystery, eh?
 

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PBK said:
Doesn't appear to be listed in either of Edkins' coal scrip books, or in Dodrill's coal company stores book.

I have seen these tokens posted as unknown or unattributed on another forum.

agree with PBK. to me sound like some advertising or retail -still coal related-heck are they wooden nickles?

how about a picture or write out what is on token obverse and reverse, (with line breaks). also, describe them for size and material.
 

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...agree with PBK. to me sound like some advertising or retail -still coal related-heck are they wooden nickles?
how about a picture or write out what is on token obverse and reverse, (with line breaks). also, describe them for size and material.
They are aluminum, and badly eroded from exposure in the soil. But they are not all rotted away. They say:
"Lucky-Dykes Coal Co.," on one side and "Good for XX in merchandise" on the other. So far I have unearthed them in 5, 10 and 25 denominations.
You can see a sample of one of them, here:

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?32,1045003

I had initially thought they were advertising or promotionl items. They may be, for all I know.
 

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i meant to say i agree with PBK that i couldn't find them listed either.

not that he said they were adv.

anyway, thanks for the update. they are very very likely to be actual scrip pieces by their appearance. great picture by the way!

where were they found? at least state would help.
 

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intimer said:
i meant to say i agree with PBK that i couldn't find them listed either.

not that he said they were adv.

anyway, thanks for the update. they are very very likely to be actual scrip pieces by their appearance. great picture by the way!

where were they found? at least state would help.
They were found in Georgia, of all places. Note, too, that they are not counter punched. This indicates that they had never been redeemed.
 

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It would be very interesting if you could spend some time at the local library reseaching directories. I would think they are scrip, not from a retailer. I congratulate you guys for finding them, I've been detecting for scrip for years and have only managed to dig some lumber scrip and a large pile of scatter tags.
 

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It would be very interesting if you could spend some time at the local library reseaching directories. I would think they are scrip, not from a retailer. I congratulate you guys for finding them, I've been detecting for scrip for years and have only managed to dig some lumber scrip and a large pile of scatter tags.
SO far our inquiries and research have turned up nothing in the locale where they were found. People who are supposedly "in the know" locally apparently have never heard of it, and I can turn up no reference to the company. One fellow upstate, who is reputed to be a guru on such things says it is the first time he's heard of them, too.
 

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intimer said:
i will email a few guys that know of scrip.

georgia has yet to have a coal mine token attributed to it.

mike
And there is little to attribute these to a coal mine, per se. Only that they refer to a mysterious "coal company."

All very intriguing.
 

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Check your messages! :icon_thumright:

I contacted Steve Ratliff, a coal scrip expert and coeditor of the new editions of Edkins' books, who in turn got in touch with Georgia tokens specialist Randy Partin. According to Randy...

"They are Augusta, GA tokens! This is what I’ve found:

"Lucky-Dykes Coal Co. is listed in my 1918 & 1919 D&B directories.

"Arthur E. Dykes is listed from 1923-1949 as proprietor of the Dykes Coal & Wood Co.

"Nothing is listed in my 1920 directory and 1914 is the next earliest one I have so I would say that the Lucky-Dykes Coal Co. was in business somewhere around 1915-1919 when the business dissolved and Dykes took over around 1920 or 1921 and ran it himself for 3 decades or more."
 

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intimer said:
well knowing the city and state i looked in a 1919 dunn and bradstreet and found it listed there as well. lucky-dykes coal and wood co.
Which I gather means they are retail promo tokens, as opposed to scrip?

Ah well, mere giveaway items, after all. Guess I'll toss 'em in the junk box. So it goes.... :tongue3:

I certainly thank all of you and especially Mr Partin for assistance. Its nice to know there are guys like you out there.
 

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intimer said:
junk box?
You know, Mike, that box where you toss the finds that aren't really spectacular, but are still cool keepers.

They are just pitted retail tokens, and not some long lost coal miners scrip. A few people have shown interest in them, but not many, so I'm guessing they are not the hot items they at first appeared to be.

SO like I said, cool keepers, for the most part.
 

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put one on ebay along with the information you learned and you may be very surprised. siegfried schlagrule
Okay, done. Now we wait....
 

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